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RW--Your impression is simply not true. There is in fact no procedure or experiment that cannot be performed on an animal should a scientist deem it necessary. Mice, rats, and birds, which make up about 98% of animals used in research, are not included under animal welfare act provisions. At all. Regulations applicable to them are suggested for NIH-funded studies, but it is exceedingly rare for universities to be punished by NIH for violations of these rules. If these animals are not being used in NIH-funded studies, there are simply no binding regulations applicable to, or ways to even track, what could happen to them. For NIH-funded studies and those using animals protected under the Animal Welfare Act, an IACUC (institutional review committee) reviews studies, and gives investigators much leeway in experimental design, including exemptions from animal welfare act regulations. Because the IACUC is made up of mostly other scientists who are comfortable with or even perform animal experiments, and one or two public members without any scientific experience, some IACUCs approach rubber-stamp status. As part of a justification for using animals, the Animal Welfare Act requires that investigators look for alternatives first. Often what occurs is a half-hearted keyword search on PubMed or MedLine. Even if there is an alternative, the USDA may not force them to use it. Finally, over the last few years, literally hundreds of animals, including primates, dogs, rats, mice, hamsters, and rabbits have died in negligent, preventable accidents--such as being scorched to death by chemicals in cage-washing machines, or dying of dehydration and heat exhaustion when the heat switches on instead of the air conditioning in the middle of the summer. None of the universities or drug companies at which these incidents happened were penalized. In terms of protection for animals in laboratories, the US offers the bare minimum and is far behind Europe in every measure.

Actually Chris, I don't think it's up to you to determine what we are created to be. Humans can be omnivores. They can also be herbivores.
And we can evolve, you know.
Regarding our moral evolution, one day people will look upon the eating of animals as an unimaginable horror.
Disagree?
Well, one day people will be appalled that we in the United States feed more than 70% of our wheat, corn and other grains to livestock, while billions in the world are malnourished and underfed.
And meat-eaters are responsible for the production of animal waste?about 86,000 pounds per second?that pollutes our water, ruins or topsoil, and contaminates our air.
The most important step you can take to save the planet is to go vegetarian.

Actually Chris, I don't think it's up to you to determine what we are created to be. Humans can be omnivores. They can also be herbivores.
And we can evolve, you know.
Regarding our moral evolution, one day people will look upon the eating of animals as an unimaginable horror.
Disagree?
Well, one day people will be appalled that we in the United States feed more than 70% of our wheat, corn and other grains to livestock, while billions in the world are malnourished and underfed.
And meat-eaters are responsible for the production of animal wasteabout 86,000 pounds per secondthat pollutes our water, ruins or topsoil, and contaminates our air.
The most important step you can take to save the planet is to go vegetarian.

The last set of IRB seminars I sat in on left me with the impression most universities have more safeguards in place for the protection of their animals subjects than they do for their human ones...

People are not created to be vegans - we are omnivores. And just being a vegan won't spare you from being overweight and/or sick. That's false confidence in a philosophy. Plus, genetics plays a huge role in what you should optimally eat.

I'm glad the pigs are being spared and I hope all experiments on animals are phased out. Also people should go vegan and stop eating animals. Then they'd be healthier and wouldn't need all those heart surgeries and bypasses and liposuction and tummy tuck operations.