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ITS NOT FAIR TO LET AN IMMIGRANT FROM ONE COUNTRY STAY IN AMERICA AND NOT ANOTHER JUST BECAUSE ONE IMMIGRANT IS EASIER TO SEND BACK THAN THE REST! AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL BECAUSE HE IS ILLEGAL AND NOT BECAUSE OF WHERE HE/SHE COMES FROM, THATS JUST RACIST AND DISCRIMINATORY!

Hey People,

THe oonly injustice about this issue, is that the government doesn't arrest and deport EVERY illegal alien in the USA.
DO you have any idea what happens to illegals in Mexico..?
I was just there a few months ago, and you should have seen what they did when they caught a bunch of Guatemalans... WOW
Now that was street justice...:-)

BIll

The blatent corruption by ICE and all supporting bodies here appalls me. Not to mention the sickening dehumanization that these "law-enforcers" are capable of. Whether or not you believe the indocumented immigrants have rights or not, the dishonesty and exploitation that is taking place by the government CANNOT be justified.

Because their immigrants I guess they're not human. They even put small innocent children in prisons where they are locked up in a prison cell for 12 hours a day with prison garb. What is this country coming too? http://www.aclu.org/immigrants/detention/hutto.html

Instead of spending a vast amount of our tax dollars on inhumane prisons, ill-conceived walls and border security, perhaps we should consider adjusting our economic policies (i.e. NAFTA), so that people are not forced into immigrating in a desperate search for jobs..."out of necessity."

Bert's send-em-back prescription for undocumented immigration is informed by his mistaken belief that immigration is a result of "decades of negligence on the part of the people charged with oversight of the border and enforcement of relevant laws." It is not "negligence," Bert, but intentional policies instigated from the highest echelons of business and government that created an open border system. See, Big Business and its rightwing allies in Washington not only wanted cheap labor, but they wanted to undermine unions. If the issue is that immigrants force wages down, then those who side with the anti-union agenda of corporations are complicit in inviting undocumented immigration. Unionization of all workers, regardless of status, will raise wages and remove the incentive for corporations and their political enablers to roll out the red carpet for undocumented immigrants and exploiting them. If they had to pay good union wages to all workers, why would they go all the way to Mexico to find them?

Bob Johnson cleverly inoculates himself with the disingenuous premise that he has been a "far left liberal my whole life." That is somehow supposed to bestow credibility to his newfound disdain for immigrant “scabs.” Well, real lefties have a much deeper analysis about immigration that goes to the root of the problem. They do not heap abuse on immigrants, who are the emblem of bad policies made in Washington and Davos. From NAFTA (million of Mexican farmers have been displaced), to wars (4 million Iraqis are now external refugees, while 2.5 are internally displaced—not to mention historical aggressions in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, etc., that have wrought hell for millions), to global warming (climate refugees are a byproduct, and the U.S. produces 25% of greenhouse gases but is only 5 percent of world's population), policy makers in Washington have made decisions with catastrophic consequences for which they have taken no responsibility. Immigrants are victims of these corporate driven policies and should be treated as such. If you want to name- call, there is a U.S. Congress, Chamber of Commerce, Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute and a host of other institutions that deserve focus.

Monomotapa
Chicago

I'm in my mid 50's and i have been a far left liberal for my whole life.

Illegal immigrants are scabs and they need to be prevented from taking jobs from americans. Our REAL unemployment rate (not the Bush admins phony cooked unemployment rate - see Kevin Phillips new book "Bad Money") is very, very high.

The left wing labor organizer Ceaser Chavez held protest marchs against the use of illegal immigrant labor.

He knew they were just a tool of managment used to drive down wages.

If the Mexican Government weren't so incredibly corrupt Mexico would have a middle class. Mexicans are forced to come over the border to get money to feed their families. I don't think anyone wants to leave their home and family because they need the money. They would much rather work at home don't you think?

The problem is the Mexican government. Mexico has vast natural resources, all of which are grossly mismanaged. What if the United States were to help straighten out that problem? Oh, that's right, no benefit to the US Corporations.

I'm against locking people up indefinitely for being from another country. The concept behind immigration enforcement is to help get people that bounced across the border illegally, back to the country they came from.
Mexico figures largely in this debate, but so do some other countries on different continents. And, I think there's always going to be some. But, the enforcement concept is thus: If you didn't apply legally, don't count on being able to stay. And, it's not something that's done out of malice, but rather of necessity. And, some countries where they've really had their head in the clouds on the issue, are paying for it big-time. I submit France as a good case example for consideration on the future of policymaking in regard to immigration.
Joblessness, ghettoes, riots, arrests, not a pretty picture. But, it's also an international issue, Proponents and supporters of illegal immigration in Mexico basically feel that they've got every right to enter the United States at-will. Of course, some of the same people also advocate smuggling drugs and so forth into our country also, and there's an issue there having to do with decades of negligence on the part of the people charged with oversight of the border and enforcement of relevant laws, which essentially means that now all 50 states have an illegal immigration problem that they're going to have to deal with independently. If you remember, Bush is/was a growth advocate, bring in lots and lots of people and stuff, and it's all good. Or, is it? Maybe so, maybe not, depending on who you ask, I think they're all going to run up tight against a phenomenon called global population growth, and it's just going to get ugly, about the time that more states face the spectre of having their water tables basically go away on em.
There comes a point when urban expansion and so forth just don't cut the mustard anymore compared to the number of people trying to gain entry, and that's when it's a shrewd choice to simply say, 'enough is enough, start turning people back, taking them home etc'., which seems to be approximately where we are now. 6.7 billion world population, last count, what's the whole thing going to look like when there's 7,8,9 billion people wandering the face of the earth, looking for a job, a place to stay, and dinner etc?
I call it 'welcome to the world of unintended consequences', we've done such a great job up to this point of eliminating all of mankind's natural enemies, now we can all live to 80, and have 4 kids that all live and stuff, and...and eventually, it's going to get Really Crowded. What will baby 9 billion eat, what country will he/she be born in? People need to find other hobbies, and we need to find some national resolve in dealing with Mexico and other countries, possibly even going to the UN to hold a conference on the issue of immigration and the potential pitfalls of millions of people in motion. If there's going to be anything like national security, then that means there has to be border security, too. The 1800's are behind us, the 1900's are behind us, and what ends up happening to the United States as an independent nation kind of depends on the people living in it today, and how realistic and honest they are about a lot of things, and the same goes for other nations around the world. Did I mention that the US is also several trillion dollars in the hole? I'm for sending people home, politely, professionally, and quickly.
Maybe even put a 10-year moratorium on all legal immigration too. That's my view.

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