Mother Jones - Comments for "Hard Time Out"

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Sir, your response to this

Sir, your response to this teen's infraction is way out of line. First of all, she used a marker on the desk, for god's sake, not a hatchet. She made marks on the desk, she didn't destroy it. Marks from a marker can almost always be wiped off with the right solvent cleaner. The police's overreaction to this young girls MISTAKE tells me we as a society have reached a state of affairs. Getting more severe the punishment is not always the answer. Maybe taking a different approach is.

Ah, Nathan - methinks yer

Ah, Nathan - methinks yer too smart fer this here shootup. (I do enjoy the language, though...) I just wanted to add - the rottenest thing is that the kids...being kids, after all - aren't exactly supposed to know better. They sure are ripped off though, when their elders don't either..... wouldn't you say? cheers, jp

Well spoke, Edgeworth. You

Well spoke, Edgeworth. You understand well enough the weird set of priorities evident in your own school - and that pretty well runs the show on a global scale, too. Keep in mind, that probably something over 90% of the population of the planet doesn't exactly agree (with the way the show's being run) - but their vote hardly counts, because lots of cash buys the votes that really count. That's just global economics on a grand scale, but at the micro level (your school) the same general rules apply. I applaud you even in your will to speak up - that gumption should serve you well in your future. Just be smart. Remember the golden rule. The oppressed always know their oppressor better than he knows them. Study hard. jp

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Your comment betrays the attitude that this article illustrates accordingly: One might (and surely should) question what kind of a society arrests and incarcerates a grade 8 girl for writing on a desk? I would suggest that this "zero" tolerance has very little to do with her. - and a great deal more to do with what IS truly intolerable - a country built on lies (as most are, one way or another) but denies this truth while driving itself into its own demise. Try tolerating a good healty mortgage / energy / financial meltdown (and throw in a good old social meltdown altogether) The prison system is a joke entirely - and will melt down in its own good time, stewing in its own juices. Yes, there are incredible villains out there - wearing all the uniforms of civilization. A grade 8 girl is not one of these...... shame on you. jp

Nice going Bill. These Democrats lie all the time to cover up the crimes of other Democrats.In these cases you can be sure the WHOLE record of the child and the WHOLE record of the event are NOT being reported. When you check the facts you find the wrongdoers have a long track record of wrongdoing, and that the details of the incident are far more convicting than the Democrats portray them to be.

David Goodman is clearly on the side of those students in our schools that are making education of the others impossible.

His bias is clear as he focuses on a stream of racial statistics harping on the tired old saw that Blacks are arrested more than Whites.

Hello, maybe this is because Blacks are more lawless than other groups.

Blacks need to clean up their own communities, and families, and reform their own bad attitudes before they start playing the race card, and pointing the racist finger in order to cover up their numerous crimes against society, and the law abiding members of society. Mother Jones is so biased on the side of Liberalism it is blind to facts.

i am 14 years old and i know better than to write on a desk. I mean come on common sense. It was a little far to send her to jail though. But 13 year olds should be smarter than that.

Why is it always the voyeurs who yell the loudest for brute force. Every problem is a nail; every solution calls for a hammer. No room for reason. No middle ground. If it offends me in the slightest, I want some higher authority to deal with it as harshly as humanly possible so the problem will go away. Obliterate the bastard so everyone will learn their lesson, and all will be right with "my" world again.

When did we stop trying, people?

And why?

speaking as a teacher, I can only welcome law enforcement coming into the schools. The kids who are disruptive in school wind up in prison later. The kids who stay out of trouble deserve a room free of criminals

WELCOME TO THE WORLD YOU HELPED CREATE...

where 'rule of Law' has nothing to do with compassion, context or even HUMANITY.

Imagine how much fun you're gonna have when BIOMETRICS CATALOGUING, RFID tagging & your every financial & social contact has been catalogued to prevent ANY DEVIATION FROM THE CORPORATIZED MODEL of societal acceptability.

WHY ARE OUR COMMUNITY PEACE OFFICERS becoming THUGS with BADGES & no SOCIAL SKILLS?

because WE LET THEM & never HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE for their 'might makes right' mentality.

WHY? because they're more interested in privatization, cool tools, hanging out at crime scenes with their buddies, slapping down 'uppity' peace protesters, their HR dockets & overtime pay.

YOU BROUGHT THIS ON YOURSELVES when you let 'terruhristz' become everyone that falls under the description of 'anybody who doesn't DROP TO THEIR KNEES IN COMPLIANCE.

Welcome to the Corporatized Brave New World.

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I think that if the parents were allowed to have control over their children, this wouldn't happen and if it teaches disrespectful, hateful children a lesson, i think that's a good thing....alot of the problem with the children (from k-12) is that they are allowed to do whatever, whenever and to whomever they like....that's wrong, so mixed feelings on this.

If a problem is ignored it will continue to thrive and grow. To denounce everyone that observes a problem because it is considered politically incorrect is ludicrous. To throw off the observations is equally ludicrous. I have witnessed cowardice and hypocrisy my whole life. It does not surprise me now that so-called open-minded psuedo-intellectuals are still looking at shadows on the cave wall.

Many Catholic priests have been brought to justice and the Catholic Church (At least financially) has been held accountable because people noticed there was a problem that was intristict within the Church.

Enron and other companies have been held accountable because people stood up and said "the Emperor has no clothes!"

I agree with the statement that most corporate crimes are committed by white people.

There is a cultural imperative that predestinates numerous individuals in a group to commit certain acts, whether positive or negative, but we shouldn't bring it up because it's sensitive and it makes certain people get a bad feeling in their tummies.

Edgeworth, good job articulating a complex issue.

Bill, if you would drop the fear and hatred, you'd be more effective. You're not all wrong.

Dave, you cite a few individual cases, and then demonstrate that you assume that all black people are represented by them.

Have you ever considered how it must have been for a black kid in your school trying to get his education, and having to deal not only with the assumptions people make about him because he shares skin color with a coke dealer, but also the violence from the black bad apples who are pissed at him for not conforming (because they, too, judge him based on his skin color)?

I share skin color with those that commit corporate theft, insider trading, fraud, police brutality, political corruption. I share blood with lobbyists, lawyers who will take money to free a man who raped and murdered his daughter, men who entered the priesthood and molest children, war profiteers, drug smugglers.

Hell, I share physical traits with the current Pope, who was part of the board that decided to protect the Catholic Church by protecting the child molestors in its ranks, who lives in a palace built on lies and theft and murder and has the freaking gall to pretend to be the moral authority for the world.

But I am not them.