Mother Jones - Comments for "Original Intent"

Cpeck, you have won the

Cpeck, you have won the anti-civics award for the most wild-eyed, foaming-at-the-mouth, uneducated, mis- and ill-informed person whose posts it has amused me no end to read. Calm down, take your meds and chill out. You sound as though you are terrified someone is going to take your (obviously fundamentalist) religion away from you. No worries -- nobody wants it but you.

Great piece, Ms. Jacoby.

Great piece, Ms. Jacoby. Sorry you have to endure the lunatic rantings of self-worshiping children.

Kevin thank God for people like you who knows the Truth and says it so well. Lucifer is collecting his dummies and the atheist movement and sodomy rides high. My book "The Messianic Legacy in the Age of Aquarius" tells us the Messiah is coming and God is now seperating the wheat from the shaff. 85% of Bible prophecy has already come true in the pages of History. God bless you and all HIs believers.

You are a spiritually blind idiot. Most Americans are Christians.. Duh.

No one is perfect, not even Jefferson, to omit sections of Sacred Canon is the height of blasphamy. The Virgin Birth is explained all through our history and in the Bible for a reason. God is the father of us all. The Catholics did such a good job of burning all the saints alive. Maybe you should read History and the Bible. Duh.

You sir are brilliant and a man of God. God bless you, you should write many books. Your love of God and religious freedom are obvious. I just finished the book and put it on Amazon called "The Messianic Legacy in the Age of Aquarius" which has a chapter on America the Great. The Messiah is coming in our lifespan and so on that we should dwell for the devil has but a short time left and is working on the spiritually ignorant such as Susan.

Right on!! How pathetic Susan is and she sells books to atheists. Why doesn't she see that she is spiritually blind? She babbles on and on with false info. Read your Bible girl..and thanks for your input sir. Celeste author of Astrology, Mythology and the Bible.

Would you believe..spiritual blindness and ignorance of God's purpose for mankind. Read my book on Amazon.The Messianic Legacy in the Age of Aquarius, by Celeste. author since 69.

Susan is no doubt an atheist and contaminates the minds of the youth by spewing ignorance of the Bible and compiling religious fanatisism with devotion to God. Godless Nations like Russia and China are doing fine in brainwashing still the Bible is hot in both countries. why don't she get on the FDA's butt and the Pharm's butt and leave God alone. I would suggest she read/ The encyclopedia of Freemasonry.Ted and Craig are right on.

How little you know about God and the Freemason Father's running from religious tyranny Susan J. Our great Seal is full of symbols of heaven, stars and God and our presidents sign in on a Bible as did Washington. We are one Nation, under God. Get over it and realize that we are free because of our right to worship whom we please. The Ten Commandments are our laws. Keep it simple Susan and not judgmental.Celeste.

What a bunch of crazies.....religion is responsible for more death, oppression, torture, and war than anything else...was that part of God's plan too ?? What a bunch of BS !!
Posted by:Jerry

Well Jerry, i believe you are mistaken! Joseph Stalin murdered 15 to 20 million of his own country men. He was a communist and atheist. Adolf Hitler is reportedly responsible for the death of fifty million. Pol Pot ( Khmer Rouge) reportedly killed 3 million cambodians. The Chinese communist Mao, well we dont no how many he has killed and probably never will!
Now what do these men have in Common? Atheist, Communist and they killed more in the 20th century than have been killed in recorded history!
Whenn you do away with God( specifically) the God of the Christian bible then man becomes God, but make no mistake it will not be all men, but some or one man will be god. I believe the examples i gave you in the beginning of my response will prove that.
Thanks Kevin

What a bunch of crazies.....religion is responsible for more death, oppression, torture, and war than anything else...was that part of God's plan too ?? What a bunch of BS !!

Hmm no religion in government, huh? The founders thought it very important that the FEDERAL government maintain no religious affiliation, but most original states did have specific Christian denominational ties. Churches were the centers of education. Rhode Island, a Baptist state was one of the first colonies to tolerate Quakers and Jews. Christian leaders were the founders of religious freedom and tolerance.

I'm sorry that some nationally known christian leaders have fought to retain the historical prominence that it played in the past in this country. They are trying to fight the moral decline in this country, but only a changed heart from knowing Jesus Christ will make a difference.

It's funny...I read the internet blog responses from the so called 'tolerant' liberals and you are vicious and angry. When you wake up one day, and find that you are the ones torturing and persecuting christian in years to come when this secular new age religion takes over, it might hit you that you are wrong. It is okay. The United States is not OUR country, ours is in a place to come. May God bless you with new life. You will not solve injustice and war in this world. This can only happen in people's hearts.

Just to clarify the truth, though, here's a few facts direct from a secular source, wikipedia to show you that religion actually WAS a part of government in the original states:

The Province of Pennsylvania was founded by Quakers, but the colony never had an established church.
West Jersey, also founded by Quakers, prohibited any establishment.
Delaware Colony had no established church.
The Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, founded by religious dissenters forced to flee the Massachusetts Bay colony, is widely regarded as the first polity to grant religious freedom to all its citizens.

[edit] Tabular Summary
Colony Denomination Disestablished1
Connecticut Congregational 1818
Georgia Church of England 17892
Maryland Church of England 1776
Massachusetts Congregational 17803
New Brunswick Church of England
New Hampshire Congregational 17904
Newfoundland Church of England
North Carolina Church of England 17765
Nova Scotia Church of England 1850
Prince Edward Island Church of England
South Carolina Church of England 1790
Canada West Church of England 1854
West Florida Church of England N/A6,8
East Florida Church of England N/A7,8
Virginia Church of England 17869
West Indies Church of England 1868

^Note 1: In several colonies, the establishment ceased to exist in practice at the Revolution, about 1776;[18] this is the date of permanent legal abolition.

^Note 2: in 1789 the Georgia Constitution was amended as follows: "Article IV. Section 10. No person within this state shall, upon any pretense, be deprived of the inestimable privilege of worshipping God in any manner agreeable to his own conscience, nor be compelled to attend any place of worship contrary to his own faith and judgment; nor shall he ever be obliged to pay tithes, taxes, or any other rate, for the building or repairing any place of worship, or for the maintenance of any minister or ministry, contrary to what he believes to be right, or hath voluntarily engaged. To do. No one religious society shall ever be established in this state, in preference to another; nor shall any person be denied the enjoyment of any civil right merely on account of his religious principles."

^Note 3: From 1780 Massachusetts had a system which required every man to belong to a church, and permitted each church to tax its members, but forbade any law requiring that it be of any particular denomination. This was objected to, as in practice establishing the Congregational Church, the majority denomination, and was abolished in 1833.

^Note 4: Until 1877 the New Hampshire Constitution required members of the State legislature to be of the Protestant religion.

^Note 5: The North Carolina Constitution of 1776 disestablished the Anglican church, but until 1835 the NC Constitution allowed only Protestants to hold public office. From 1835-1876 it allowed only Christians (including Catholics) to hold public office. Article VI, Section 8 of the current NC Constitution forbids only atheists from holding public office.[19] Such clauses were held by the United States Supreme Court to be unenforceable in the 1961 case of Torcaso v. Watkins, when the court ruled unanimously that such clauses constituted a religious test incompatible with First and Fourteenth Amendment protections.

Great Article. I have a born again Christian mother who needs to read this. The government is running on the belief that all men are created equal when one believes as them.

I would like to introduce Xeno-of-the-many-sevens to the concept of the paragraph:

"A subdivision of a written composition that consists of one or more sentences, deals with one point or gives the words of one speaker, and begins on a new usually indented line."

Stream-of-consciousness is probably not the best way to try to make a point.