Mother Jones - Comments for "Debate Liveblogging - VP Edition"

To answer your question: when she said McCain doesn't talk about people one way in one place and another way in a different place, she was referring to Obama's "bitter" remark. This was part of her convention speech and it's been part of the stump speech ever since. Trust me, even though she didn't mention Obama by name, the gun-loving red staters got it.

No. You can't call me Joe. That's SENATOR Biden to you , young lady. Who taught you your manners?

I think she was referring to Gen. McClellan whom Lincoln replaced for not leading the Union Army effectively in the Civil War. And she chided Biden for looking backward!

It was the classic Tortoise and Hare moment. Palin was jumping through hoops and Biden was plodding forward, ignoring her attacks as if she were just a nuisance one had to endure to reach the finish line. And when in doubt, always fall back on the "white flag" argument. It was a stunning moment when Palin didn't have an answer, so she reverted to an attack. There is her Achilles Heel...the other heel is McCain: a crippled campaign.

My one-time future former- spouse-to-be and Sarah are a matching set. Garble-up a comment so she herself can't recall or understand what was said. But realize it is a personal technique. Diagram one of those run-on sentence sequences, then tell me she's presidential material.

Mark my words: Under a little pressure she will regress into malaprops, serial Freudian slips, and denials. A sreet corner urchin. If you can stand Dubya you can stand her.

What happened is that Palin would have vetoed the equal benefits for same sex couples in state employment insurance etc but she was advised by (state AG or legal advisors) that not to provide equal protections/benefits would have violated the State constituion so she did not veto. She is not an advocate of gay rights..She does not "get the issue" and gets confused about stuff like legal rights.

Hi Kevin, speaking of the Hockey-Mom-o-Bot 3000, it actually exists! You can ask it questions here:
http://interviewpalin.com/

It's pretty easy to call out "troll" and "concern troll", but do you have an argument?

At least OhNoNotAgain made his case as to why Biden/Obama's position on gay marriage was correct and gutsy. But you can't even do that, can you?

You can only insist that people who disagree with you are trolls and delegitimize them. You've learned your lessons well.

Whatever d00d.

I'm sorry mateo, next time any of us have a thought where we disagree with you, we'll be sure to ask your permission. Because eliminating spoken dissent is key to a managed conversation, and I appreciate your reminding us of that.

I'm sure that's what MoJo stands for. Eliminating thought, conversation, and disagreement.

Palin on climate change: "I'm not one to attribute every man -- activity of man to the changes in the climate." Isn't this the same backwards logic as in the Couric interview. She seems to be saying that she doesn't think climate change determines man's activities...instead of the other way around which is actually the question (and whihc seems to be the scientific consensus in spite of Sen. Coburn).

The dangers of mouthing phrases you don't understand!

Monday morning quarterbacking, but a couple of comments:

(1) Read Juan Cole this morning for his utterly devastating dismantling of Palin. In his opinion, last night's so-called debate bore as much resemblance to a real debate as reality TV does to a Shakespearean theater production. Juan rocks! Here is a link:

www.juancole.com

(2) Palin rarely answered a direct question from Ifill, instead she just regurgitated pre-packaged, focus group-tested lines like "we need to cut taxes" and "the country wants to get away from partisan bickering", all the while lobbing the most partisan grenades her tiny brain could muster. The whole thing reminded me of a wise college professor trying to have an intelligent conversation with a snippy, uninformed sorority girl. Painful and pathetic to watch.

There was no contest - Biden did a masterful job while Palin was barely coherent.

Um, what Article in the Constitution was about the VP Joe? Was it I or II?

Kevin the comment about saying things to different groups was about Obama telling the San Fran crowd about bitter people "Clinging to their religion and guns." He doesn't say that stuff in PA.

Fact checkin' ole Joe is a full time job after this debate.

karen marie:

I was going to mention that too. It was the scariest statement.

The VP's office is NOT a 4th branch of government. This poisonous weed of governmental theory must be exterminated.
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Overall, the debate was a fai8lure for McCain/Palin. Palin never appeared to plausibly presidential. She appeared to be on the level of a state chair for the McCain campaign as opposed to a "serious" politician rady to take on the world.

Eve Harrington. Eve Harrington. Eve Harrington.

palin's scariest statement?

IFILL: Governor, you mentioned a moment ago the constitution might give the vice president more power than it has in the past. Do you believe as Vice President Cheney does, that the Executive Branch does not hold complete sway over the office of the vice presidency, that it it is also a member of the Legislative Branch?

PALIN: Well, our founding fathers were very wise there in allowing through the Constitution much flexibility there in the office of the vice president. And we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the president's agenda in that position. Yeah, so I do agree with him that we have a lot of flexibility in there, and we'll do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation.

combined with palin's remark about "building our embassy, also, in Jerusalem," we would all do well to remember that if successful, this woman would be in a position to decide the date of the apocalypse which she believes will come in her life time.