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"Historically speaking managements get the unions they deserve."

Okay. So why should we give billions of our dollars to the managers of the auto companies? Presumably if they go under, their (remaining) market share will be taken by better-managed companies.

Workforce exclusion in the worker's paradise:

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RIM Sues Motorola Over Hiring of Laid-Off Workers

Research in Motion is suing Motorola, claiming it's preventing the Canadian phone maker from hiring workers the U.S. company is letting go, reports Bloomberg.

RIM claims a pact the two companies made earlier this year to not hire the other company's employees as part of negotiations of a confidential matter expired in August or is not enforceable, or both, according to the Chicago Tribune. Motorola sued RIM, maker of the BlackBerry, three months ago, asking the judge to prevent its company from using any confidential information or from hiring its workers.

Motorola has laid off 10,000 workers since 2007 and recently announced more cuts.
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Corporate thuggery:

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Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (NYSE: WMT) will settle an employee class-action lawsuit for $54 million over allegations of off-the-clock work and slicing break time for employees. Over 100,000 current and former hourly Wal-Mart employees are included in the suit, which covers a 10-year period from September 1998 to November 2008.
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WRONG on so many levels.

First of all, individual wage growth has been 9% in real after tax dollars for the bottom quintile over the last 50 years, not changing that much regardless of who has been in office. Mr. Drum confuses, as do Democrats generally and many Republicans (amazingly) wage levels with actual wages. Wage levels can remain exactly the same and wage growth can still be excellent. Individuals during their work lives rise THROUGH (excuse the capitals) those wage levels. The last statistics I saw have 80% of people entering the workforce at the bottom quintile rising to the 2nd highest income quintile after 20 years. People get promoted and get raises, but the wage levels remain relatively constant (they can even go down and still there is wage growth).

In fact, unions inhibit employment and exclude people from the workforce. Civil service unions destroy public services, especially the schools along the way. In truth the zeal for unionization is the eagerness to attain political power through votes and and reliable campaign funds (coerced from union workers salaries).

The card check is the most frightening attempt to legitimize thuggery since the legislatively constructed lesser penalties for union-based violence against temporary workers and firms employing them. It's a disgrace. Whatever "reasons" for it can be addressed directly without worker coercion. Further many workers would prefer promotions and raises based on merit rather than seniority and a system where their colleagues who are hacks and jerks are fired rather than kept (fired and replaced by the dedicated workers themselves).

Unions are anti-worker as is the Democratic Party ... in actuality despite rhetoric.

TOH

"If Unions are bad-Explain the abuses going on now with CEOS and Corporate Heads getting millions for failing to do their job. "

Non-sequitur. Unions could be good or bad regardless of undeserved CEO pay and bonuses.

"...Republicans definitely don't want to see them get strong again-even if that means illegal immigrant labor and no border patrols."

Right, because we all know that it's the Democrats who want to crack down on illegal immigration, create tougher border security, and send all the current illegal immigrants back to their homeland.