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 <description>&lt;p&gt;The recession has hit designers of all kinds fairly hard.  Forging alliances with other design companies is a great way to make connections, network, get recommendations, new clients, and new work.  Good luck with everything!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Crowd size estimates are notoriously variable, depending on who&#039;s doing them. Here in the UK, there&#039;s a regular issue with the police under-reporting demonstrations by a factor of about 4 -- consistently. No source is cited for the estimate of 10,000 Sadrists, but elsewhere in the article it says:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;In Firdos Square, protesters sat in rows of 50 stretching back more than half a mile. They filled Sadoun Street, beside the Palestine Hotel and in front of the colonnaded traffic circle where five years ago American troops pulled down the dictator&#039;s statue in scenes televised around the world.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fifty wide, half a mile deep -- if there were 10,000, that would indicate 200 rows. To be half a mile deep they&#039;d have to be spaced 15 feet apart, which suggests to me that something is Not Right about the 10,000 estimate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If, however, we go by the 4:1 metric, the rows would be about 3 feet apart, and we&#039;d have a figure of 40,000 Sadrists. Which is closer to Sadr&#039;s usual turn-out. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does anyone know how large Firdos Square is?&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;If Obama doesn&#039;t leave in 18 months, like he said he would prior to election, I&#039;ve no doubt that Iraqis will respond very negatively, the citizens, not the government. It won&#039;t simply be Sadr and his group but rather all the citizens. We can&#039;t stay in Iraq, nobody should doubt that fact. Making Hillary Secretary of State will NOT change that fact.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Personally, I hope it fails and the US has no extended authority to remain after the first of the year.&lt;/p&gt;
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