Mother Jones - Comments for "With Robertson, Giuliani Wins the Nutcase Primary?"

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John, if what you say is true, why is it that historians can not investigate these allegations in Europe. It is because a whole industry is based upon it. There are hundreds of eye witnesses to the Resurrection. Christians view the unbelief of the Resurrection the same way that Jews view the unbelief of the 6 million(it was only 1 million, which is 1million too many, but why lie and say 6million).

Believing that religion is a superstitious belief is not saying that historical events like the Holocaust did not exist. There were witnesses to events like the Holocaust, there are historical documents, there are historical sites such as the remains of the death camps and the mass graves, etc. These demonstrate an actual event took place. If your religious beliefs are threatened just because someone else doesn't believe in it and all you can do is call them a christophob, then you have more of a problem that we do. Just as you believe in holy scriptures, I can speak that I've done enough reading in theological history over the years to realize that the so-called religious texts were what remained after people with agendas compiled a canon of texts that matched their viewpoints and destroyed those that failed to support them. That much is known to us from the historical record. For instance, it is known that there were other Christian gospels than those found in the current Bible. However, historical church councils over the centuries winnowed out many of those, leaving only the four. We know of the other gospels from the writings of the councils. Many of the remaining were destroyed, with only a few tantalizing ones hidden away to be found again this last century in fragmentary pieces (I'm extremely intrigued by the fragments of the Gospel of Mary and wonder what the full text would tell us). You may trust that God's hand led them to include only the truth. I myself don't have that much trust in men when they have an agenda they want to push forward, or when the truth doesn't coincide with what they believe. Of course, for those who don't have strong supporting arguments for their beliefs, they can always fall back on the old "call them names and villify them" since that works for many of the flock.

Nutcase Nation is alive and well on Mother Jones. Well, free speech is to be defended nevertheless. It's still better than being trapped in a room with Dinesh D'Souza. Mother Jones is very understanding in letting her strays and orphans post here; they are all welcome.
"The New York Jews have their money on Senator Hillary"????
"Pat Robertson is a man of God. And He is correct. Satan is behind much of the world's ills. People should be careful when putting down one of God's own. Good day."????

http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2007/11/10/pat-robertsons-endorseme...

Rodney, I bet that you also think that The Holocaust is made up too. You are just another one of these Christophobs.

Robertson is part of the evil that Jesus, not the made up figure of christ, talks about!

Dave, what nonsense are you spouting. Who are you calling a spook? Sounds racist to me.

Bronze-age superstition grows like pond-scum. Will we as a race ever be able to think past the 'big-spook-in-the-sky' nonsense?

Another road sihn on the road to theocracy. And see http://ebar.com/common/inc/article_print.php?sec=guest_op&article=73

Well Joey, I've certainly been called worse over the years! My understanding of the message of Jesus is probably quite different than those of evangelical persuasions and because of this, I'm never going to agree with or support the Pat Robertsons of the world as long as their messages support greed, bigotry, hatred of others they don't agree with or whose life styles they don't like personally, etc. If that makes me a "christophobe", so be it!

John, you don't see yourself. You are a Christophob. Many posts here demonstrate that Christophobia is alive and well.

Catherine B.- blaming a mythical Satan for the ills of the world is just a way of avoiding responsibility for the greed, selfishness, and hatred we harbor in our own selves. We hear people like Robertson and his far right supporters call on us to 'love our neighbors' and 'feed his people' - as long as they are people deemed to be acceptable and as long as it doesn't cost us too much out of our pockets and as long as it doesn't ask us to make personal sacrifices. We' heard the Robertsons and the Falwells make bigoted statements blaming various groups for the ills facing America. We've seen them support an American President that has lied to the public and led us into an unjust war. We've seen them call on that President to veto bills that would provide money for childrens healthcare because it would cost us too much or that it would support people 'that don't deserve it', we've seen them support measures to reduce taxes on the wealthy to the detriment of average Americans. We've seen them support legislation that's good for big business but that allows jobs that feed and cloth Americans to be shuttered here and sent overseas where big business can avoid having to pay a living wage. And what happens when someone happens to disagree with these 'men of God'? You get a warning not to put down this man of god. You get called a traitor for not blindly supporting an unjust war, you get called un-American and "Godless Liberals". Well, I guess I'm just an traiterous, un-American godless Liberal and I'll take my chances that God doesn't have much more use for Pat Robertson and the other braying donkeys out there that are misleading people that I have for them!

Well, well! I see from one of the posts that anti-semitism is alive and well in the good old USA! And we all thought that was just something that happened in Europe! Don't have a thoughtful opinion, then blame it on the ______ (fill in your favorite group to slander).

Corn is correct - Robertson is a bigoted nut. One has only to look at his track record to confirm this. The Christian "coalition" - once so powerful within the Republican Party - is now perceiving its own fragmentation and demise. God bless the separation of church and state!