Mother Jones - Comments for "New Hope for the DREAM Act"

For Bill and everyone else

The reality is that the DREAM act will cost taxpayers fifty million dollars annually. HOWERVER after doing some research If the DREAM act passes in the long run the undocumented student, after obtaining his/her degree will repay that tax money in a few decades. Not only would the DREAM act increase tax revenues but also reduce government expenses. In a study conducted by RAND in 1999 it was estimated tat "an average thirty year old Mexican immigrant woman [college educated] will pay $ 5,300 more in taxes and cost $ 3,900 less in criminal justice and welfare expenses" than if she were a high school dropout. "The increase fiscal contribution would repay the requred educational inestment [50 million dollars] within a few years...provide a profit to taxpayers for several decades" (nilc.org). As a result those fifty million dollars taxpayers will invest will not only be repaid but even moe money will be coming into the economy. Next time Bill do some research before you start judging and prevent yourself from coming out as ignorant.

Bill Sucks

Fuck you bill.

STOP WHINING BILL No one's

STOP WHINING BILL No one's trying to take your stupid money. Even if the DREAM Act passes, those who qualify for it WON'T be given federal financial aid (even though they PAY TAXES) and they WON'T be allowed to vote. Funny how the government is more than willing to take their money when it comes to tax time, yet denies simple human rights like healthcare and education. YOU are the one "stealing" the illegal immigrant's tax dollars!!!!

please learn english!!

O.K I had it with you people! you steam out hatred all over the place against illegals, yet they write better english than you do. If you would worry a little more about getting educated instead of insulting people for the sin of being born somewhere else, I am pretty sure things would be much better for the nation. border not boarder, and we invaded Mexico first just to let you know.

Physics major? and can't

Physics major? and can't spell grammar? are you sure? did you serve in the army in your country? did you serve in the army here? are you really a patriot because you hate illegals?

Bill and everyone else, As

Bill and everyone else, As I read the comments on this page, I can't help but to feel pity. First of all, I doubt, Bill, that you are educated. I'm about to graduate from UT and i can tell you that if you went to college, you didn't learn a thing because you are incredibly ignorant. Steal your taxes? Take your schools? As many have stated, illegal immigrants DO pay taxes. You also stated that we take your jobs, well, yea we (immigrants) do. We take your jobs because we work hard. Instead of begging on the streets, we work. But now we are not only working in the fields, we are working in offices, not taking a "white man" job, but taking an available job that we are better qualified for. If you don't want immigrants taking your job, then work hard! You think you have more patriotism than immigrants? Growing up in a country that you know will give you opportunities that you might never have had creates a real appreciation and love for that country. Why are you so patriotic? You call yourself an American yet you embody ignorance, intolerance, and hatred. Do you consider yourself a good American? Is that what America stands for for you? People need to realize that when immigrants start having more rights, the situation will improve for ALL of America. If immigrants are able to work legitimately, then they will have to be paid at least minimum for that job. If they are getting paid fairer, their will be less competition for jobs based on anything other than merit. This means that in the end, everyone gets paid more. Sometimes a white person will not get paid what they deserve, and sometimes even get replaced by someone who is willing to work for less. These people are immigrants that sometimes don't have papers so they take a job regardless of pay, but if they have rights, then they will have the right for minimum pay. This will leave the company no alternative but to raise wages. Raised wages means improved living conditions for all the working class which means increased opportunities. With increased possibilities you have less people that need government help, which means that money can be used for other things like health care or higher education. The country needs any kind of reform that would allow it's inhabitants to succeed. When the people succeed, the country succeeds. Long live America :)

First of all, let me tell

First of all, let me tell you some facts: Since I work for the newspaper here in the College I attend I had to research some things about immgrants and education in california, since they wanted to to revoke the AB540. 1.) I found that if we (yes we) Immigrants (I am an immigrant too) attend college the United States loses money, and the most important/interesting thing is that THE US LOSES WAY MORE MONEY IF WE *THE IMMAGRANTS* don't attend. I am Mexican I love my country with all my heart, but my parents, who brought me here, to this great country, realized that we had not future in Mexico. Of course we're not steeling anything from you guys, we pay taxes!!! My parents work in the fields, would you consider that steeling a job??? of course not, Im' pretty sure, many Americans wouldn't want to work in places like that. I believe they'd do anything else but that, is that why I see many Americans asking and begging for money in the streets??? I'm sorry but see we Mexicans don't do that, we don't come here to kill, steel, or anything else, we come to excel, and that is why we work in the fields and consider that an honest job. I am proud of my parents for bringing me here, and for the job they have, because IT IS FROM WORKING IN THE FIELDS THAT I AM ABLE TO ATTEND COLLEGE AND LIVE. I'M SORRY IF I OFFENDED ANYBODY. I LOVE THE UNITED STATES JUST AS MUCH AS I LOVE MY COUNTRY, MEXICO.

i have read almost all the comments on this page and i have to say that it just makes me sad that some people are so ignorant and immature about this situation. i do see how citizens can be angry about immigrants being here, after all this is not our home country. people need to understand that this means absolutely everything to illegal students, we honestly have no other way, and its sad that people can still be this racist. you CITIZENS do understand that this country was made out of immigrants and the ONLY actual citizens are the Native Americans right? so why do you guys think that you own the place? i have to say that we the student who were brought here as children had no choice and just like other kids our age, we have worked hard in some cases even harder just to be in school and have jobs. we are dying for things that you guys take for granted, like JOBS.. i mean seriously how many of you out there just keep making excuses for not having jobs, all you do is bitch and moan about how we are taking your jobs and your tax money, but what you don't realize is that we pay taxes just like you do and even after not having ss#'s we still manage to have jobs and pay for the bills. and in my case have so many better things than some of you out there have, and i'm not saying that to brag, its just so you know that after so many obstacles we still manage to be very well off in a country were we have no identity.

Hey Bill
I just read your thought on how illegal immigrants should only be given papers if they serve six years and I think you should know that these are kids who were brought over here without a choice. They can not join the military without being a legal citizen. Some people in the military say otherwise so they can get paid for recruiting more people but eventually they get deported back. And its real easy for you to say ship them back to where they came from cause you probably live in a nice house and have all the things you really NEED. But I know a family who was told to go back to their country and they packed up their family and left. But now they can barely afford to have food for them and their children, the husband sometimes does not even get paid but continues to work in hopes that he will next week, and water is delivered once a month to people in the town but only lasts a week. So its real easy for a person like you who probably has not worked a week in his life as hard as that husband works everyday to support his family.

this dream act is for kids that came here because their parents made them. they had no say in the matter, tell me if you ever did not follow what your parents told you when you were 10 or 15 years old for that matter. this kids came here because they didn't have a choice. some of them have lived here for 10 years and are probably smarter and have bigger dreams than most of us. this kids deserve a chance to become legal here and have the opportunity of their own. As for the parents, they should be deported because they knew what they were doing. but the kids are probably so used to living here that sending them back to their country will be not do anything more than ruin their lives and create hate for america in their countries.

Hey BILL,

You cannot tell us, the undocumented youth, to BLAME our parents...because they did this for us, and we will be forever thankful.
Before you say anything about immigration, you should know that coming to the U.S. to stay legally is pretty much impossible. It takes FOREVER. Our parents were desperate...but guess what, my family and i came by plane, we came as LEGAL immigrants. Unfortunately, our visas expired and we had no future in our home country, so we stayed.

My parents are college educated, we pay taxes and speak English. i pay for college with my own money, how am i stealing from U.S. citizens?
DREAM does not give us instate tuition- we still have to pay out of state. How are we stealing your tax money? I pay taxes too.

My family and I, as many other undocumented families are well rounded, educated individuals who DO speak english and assimilate to the American society. What's so wrong about giving us a chance?

Hey Maria,

You need to be angry andv upset with your
PARENTS..!!!

They are the ones who criminalized your whole family by NOT following the llegal path. Your parents are the ones who took you from your mother country and illegaly crossed our boarder and hid in the shadows for so many years.
I am sorry for your situation, but you should go back where you ARE a citizen and apply like the REST of the world..OK..?
Why should you have any advantage, just because your parents were good at hiding and not being deported..?

The round up has begun..:-)

ICE even ahs a phone number where American Citizens can call and turn in illegals..:-)
Watch yoru back... or better yet, Go back to yoru country of birth and do it the llegal way...huh?

Bill

I am an illegal immigrant and I understand why so many American Citizens are upset over this issue. I also want you to put yourself in my shoes for a minute I came to the United States when I was a year old. I graduated from high school with honor, at the same time I did about 400 hours of community work in my neighborhood. My dream was to attend UCLA yet that dream came to an end when I realized I did not qualify for financial aid because of my legal status. I am currently attending a California State University and I pay tuition working full time. I am majoring in Social Work because I want to be able to help those in my community who are most in need. I have never been in trouble with the law in any way. I pay taxes! My parents have never asked the government for any help. WHY AM I TREATED LIKE A CRIMINAL? I have no future in the country were I was born. I consider myself an American. I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!!! I believe people should become educated about the illegal immigrants living in America. Not everyone is bad. I urge everyone to think about my case because there are many others in my situation.
THANK YOU ALL AND THANK YOU AMERICA FOR FREEDOM OF SPEECH

I am an illegal immigrant and I understand why so many American Citizens are upset over this issue. I also want you to put yourself in my shoes for a minute? I came to the United States when I was a year old. I graduated from high school with honor, at the same time I did about 400 hours of community work in my neighborhood. My dream was to attend UCLA yet that dream came to an end when I realized I did not qualify for financial aid because of my legal status. I am currently attending a California State University and I pay tuition working full time. I am majoring in Social Work because I want to be able to help those in my community who are most in need. I have never been in trouble with the law in any way. I pay taxes! My parents have never asked the government for any help. WHY AM I TREATED LIKE A CRIMINAL? I have no future in the country were I was born. I consider myself an American. I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!!! I believe people should become educated about the illegal immigrants living in America. Not everyone is bad. I urge everyone to think about my case because there are many others in my situation.
THANK YOU ALL AND THANK YOU AMERICA FOR FREEDOM OF SPEECH