North Carolina Watch
| Wed Oct. 29, 2008 11:01 AM PDT
NORTH CAROLINA WATCH....Liddy Dole airs an ad against Kay Hagan accusing her of being a pagan:
"Godless Americans and Kay Hagan. She hid from cameras. Took godless money," the ad concludes. "What did Kay Hagan promise in return?"
This is like a spoof from Saturday Night Live or something. Godless money? Is the Republican Party really this bound and determined to give up what small shreds of credibility they still have left?
Watching this campaign has been sort of like watching The Office. (The Gervais version, anyway.) It's sort of excruciating, and you keep wanting to turn your head away in embarrassment, but you're mesmerized despite it all and you keep watching. And after each episode you think they really can't top that. But then they do.
Less than a week to go, though. It's longer than The Office, but the campaign still has to end eventually.
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Submitted by Howard (not verified) on Wed Oct. 29, 2008 11:00 AM PDT.
I have to be the first to say it:
Oh. My. God!
[sorry about that]
Er, last I looked, the usual basic synonym for "godless" isn't "Pagan," it's atheist.
And (as with the "Obama is a Muslim" smear) Hagan is unfortunately forced to respond "How dare you claim that I'm an atheist?" rather than the actual tolerant "What, are atheists subhuman or something?" Politically, she's forced to pander to her constituents' bigotry rather than defy it.
Hagan's no atheist, but to take a page from Colin Powell, so what if she were?
I'm actually collecting mail for a study on the Senate race and have a number of the "Godless American PAC" mailers. I investigated a little, and discovered that there is a group so dumb as to name themselves that. Yeah, the whole thing is stupid, but you name yourselves Godless Americans PAC and you can only hurt those you want to help.
Submitted by Lucia (not verified) on Wed Oct. 29, 2008 11:34 AM PDT.
Yeah, the whole thing is stupid, but you name yourselves Godless Americans PAC and you can only hurt those you want to help.
What would you recommend? Secular, humanist, rational, or any other such name I can think of will be immediately translated into godless by the bigots Dole is talking to, so why not call it what it is?
Full disclosure: I own a Godless Americans t-shirt, although, being (semi sort of) pagan, I'm not quite godless.
Hey Tomeck...not only was I born in the hills, but I also live and vote in NC...does that make me a rube? Because if that's the logic, and since i intend to vote for Hagan and Obama, then all rubes must surely feel the same way that I do. Jerk.
Inkblot's supporters are all pagans, since they're worshiping a cat.
I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I would love to some day be able to vote for an openly pagan candidate for anything (assuming he or she is other qualified) but it ain't likely.
I guess we are seeing who these people really, really are.
Finally it`s all out in the open !
"...A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to it's true principles. It is true that in the mean time we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war & long oppressions of enormous public debt...." - Thomas Jefferson
"In God We Trust" first appeared on an American coin during the Civil War, but didn't appear on all US coins until 1938 and was first used on paper money in 1957. The phrase was adopted as the National Motto in 1956 to protect us from the Commies during the Cold War.
"Under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954.
rhfarmer
I never said everyone in the hills was a rube, don't be so touchy. But just to be clear, there are rubes in the flatlands, in the cities, mountains and forests. And since you're not falling for this "godless" line of crap, you obviously don't fit into the rube category. Feel better now?
Submitted by Independent Perspective (not verified) on Wed Oct. 29, 2008 2:52 PM PDT.
Well maybe Liddy should bring her husband's German Shepherd dog, the one that was panted over Brittany Spears, as her husband told the dog "down boy". After that Godless dog had the hot's for Brittany in Pepsi commercial.
You ask me, I say it says volumes about the many sin's of the Doles.
We were at parent's weekend for my daughter's sorority last weekend at UNC, and come to find out Kay Hagen's daughter is a senior in the same sorority. I saw this daughter, and can't say for sure, as I couldn't see inside her soul, but she didn't look very paganesque to me. And I figure if the daughter of the mother isn't a pagan then probably the mother isn't a pagan either. Plus, it's North Carolina. There's probably some pagans up around Ashville, perhaps posing as old hippies, but it sure doesn't seem like the sort of state where a pagan is going to ever run for the senate, much less get elected. But it does seem like the sort of state where a desperate Republican would be inclined to fling some paganistic accusations!
You know, I remember when Libby Dole was a classy woman. Politics sure have changed her. I didn't take her to be so mean and dishonest as she has turned out to be in this election. This is so unnecessary and even if she wins, does she believe no one will remember this low moment in her political life????
tomeck...rubes unite! My point is that many who see Obama as a superior intellect and a great choice for president will defy stereotyping. I think many who were vilified by the right for the last 27 years would do well to avoid the pitfalls of the right--don't sling the mud or insult the intelligence of your opponent or it's constituents...republicans, like their symbol, have long memories, and no slight will go unpunished in the future.
The answer to all of your questions, Kevin, appears to be yes.
I don't think these are the moves of a confident candidate, yet it seems like all Republicans who are in trouble are acting like this. I'd honestly be surprised if the Democrats got to 60 or 61 Senate seats and over 30 House seats, but it's starting to look more and more like those predictions from Carville about a "seismic" event happening on election day aren't so crazy. How bad must the numbers for some of these people be if they are doing what they are doing? My guess is, really, really, really bad. As in, Jessica Simpson singing opera bad.
rhfarmer
I understand and agree. I've also watched one too many videos of the crowds outside McCain/Palin events yelling "get a job" (hey, that went out in 1973), or calling people communists and terrorists because they have an Obama sign.
Frick 'em.
So me and a bunch of my atheist buddies whipped out our wallets, took out our cash, carefully blacked out "In God We Trust" on each bill, and donated them to Kay Hagan. We offered them to Liddy Dole first but she refused our goddess money.
The North Carolinians who see these ridiculous ads are smart enough to know they're garbage. They can't really pretend to be stupid enough to believe them.
The question is whether they will elect such a candidate or demand better. It's in their hands.
America will be watching and hoping they choose based on truth and policy positions and character instead of lies.
