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I'll up you - Yippee!! AND yippetayay!!!

What happened to Z?

Are you holding out on us?

as soon as mccain concedes and the e.c. certifies, i want obama and all of his allies to start the drumbeat: no pardons.

no last-minute pardons for libby or rove or anyone.

i want mikes shoved in bush's face on nov. 5: will you promise not to obstruct justice by pardoning any member of your administration? will you go on record refusing to pardon anyone who may be the subject of a legal investigation?

if not, why not?

i'd like to see this become a priority for all lefty bloggers, too.

I have some lofty expectations for Obama, if things go about as well as planned. I missed my opportunity to elaborate on the Electoral College results a week or so ago, but allow me to say that if Obama does really well, he'll probably break 400 Electoral votes or come very close to doing it.

I don't know how likely it is. Some mights list both Dakotas as toss ups, along with Georgia, for instance, while others have them as safe McCain states. Meanwhile, the number crunchers at fivethirtyeight.com predict about a six-point win overall, a tremendous number to be sure, one that includes a very solid win of about 340 votes in the Electoral College.

But there are a few polls out there that have Obama at a double-digit win nationally. I don't know how likely that is. If I had to guess, I'd say, not that likely. But if Obama's floor is around five or six points, what is his ceiling? If he wins, say, a nine-point victory nationwide, how many states does this push into the blue column? At the very least, a victory that large would probably make it certain that Obama would win not only Ohio and Florida, but Virginia, North Carolina, and Indiana, if not Georgia, North Dakota, and Montana. Hell, if the lead is that big, perhaps Obama would win Arizona by a small margin.

Again, I'm not saying it's likely, but as many others have noted, Obama's ground game is incredible, while McCain's is pretty weak. Then consider all of the advantages that the Democrats go into the races with. Then think about the way supposedly most reputable pollsters are predicting the race in some models. Hell, Gallup's Registered Voter model up to November 2 has Obama ahead by 13 points, and the lowest of the low in the final projections has him ahead by six points. All of this added up leads me to think that we are headed for a big, big win.

Which is to say, this is good news, of course, for John McCain.

the most disastrous presidency in modern history

So, was there someone worse in non-modern history? Why not Worst President Ever? This is not snark - I really want to understand who you think is worse, and why - maybe I'm not up on all the bad presidents.

I don't see how you can list all those factors and not list

(a) Republican caging lists designed to invalidate voters -- mostly legitimate voters, and mostly collegiate and/or poor voters -- by the hundreds of thousands.
(b) Lines lasting for hours, causing, I would expect, voters in the low millions to leave without casting a ballot.
(c) Electronic voting machines that can be tampered with by pretty much any talented hacker.
(d) States (New Mexico at least was one in 2004) where the paper ballots are counted by a for-profit private company, and not produced for public inspection.

Nothing you list should be higher-ranked than (e), I suspect.

Well, I take a back seat to no one when it comes to Bush hatred and disgust at the repellant McCain campaign.

But calls for score-settling, revenge, etc. are foolish.

Even if you think these things are right or just, the politics of it is stupid.

If there is one thing Mr. Obama has demonstrated, it is grace.

Take the high road. Tomorrow, the dishonorable John McCain and the grotesque Sarah Palin will get their just desserts: losers.

They will be forever associated with a disgusting, race-baiting campaign. They're both disgraced, and washed-up.

Have strong desire to have buzzp's question answered given what we all know about U S History. At same time American the land of 60% cretins including the craven cretinistic press can never ever be forgiven for what they did in electing W.

Easy -- all this triumphalism before the event is creating sympathy for McCain. I'm having a lot of trouble keeping my Republican friend to his promise to vote Democratic this time (first time in his life). He feels sorry for McCain now.

Sure, Bush is the worst president in a good long time.

But, it seems to me, that political pundits don't really have much right to call him that.

You guys, almost completely without exception, supported Bush's policy in the most disastrous decision he made.

Sure, the response to Katrina, the tax cuts that exacerbated the deficit, Patriot Act denials of civil rights, etc.... Those were all bad. But the Iraq war killed about a million people.

And all the smug, serious-minded political pundits supported it. The NYT, Washington Post, LA Times, NPR, TNR, the think tanks - Brookings, AEI, Heritage, Hudson, WINEP, the big liberal bloggers - Yglesias, Ezra Klein, Josh Marshall, Mr. Drum, Sullivan, almost all of them supported the war.

If 100 people are watching a man about to jump off a cliff, and 99 say, "yeah, that's a good idea," is it fair for those 99 people to, afterwards, constantly question the judgment of the jumper? Probably the best they could say is "well, he was unlucky".

But instead all the political pundits love to show their perspicacity, and tut-tut the Bush decision to go to war. You guys, ALL, would've done the same thing.

Now, 40-50% of the US population opposed the war, 95% of the world population opposed the war, about 40-60% of Democratic politicians opposed the war, and they have the right to say Bush was wrong. But not you hawks.

I would say, try as many different experiences as possible, inspiration and ideas come from all sorts of places.

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