Bay Bleg

| Sat Mar. 14, 2009 9:16 PM PDT
Marian and I are coming up to San Francisco in a couple of weeks and we're going to have all day Sunday free for sightseeing and whatnot.  Do any of my Bay Area readers have any nonobvious suggestions for things to do and see?  Anything accessible by foot or transit is OK.  Thanks!

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take the ferry over to

take the ferry over to Tiburon and have lunch/drinks at Sams. Best view of the Bay you'll find and a nice seaside town that is off the beaten path.

Go to Sams in Tiburon

Take the ferry over to Tiburon and have lunch/drinks at Sams. Great view of the bay in a nice off-the-beaten path seaside town.

If you're interested in

If you're interested in science, the Exploratorium is pretty great (http://www.exploratorium.edu/), particularly the tactile dome. I haven't been yet, but friends have said very good things about the new Academy of Sciences (http://www.calacademy.org/), especially the rain forest exhibit.

The City

The new California Academy of Sciences is worth a visit. The architecture is more interesting than the exhibits, but it's worth a few hours. Get there early on a Sunday as it's still drawing crowds. I like wandering around the Mission and Castro districts. Four Barrels for a cup of coffee and Ike's Place for a sandwich (Napoleon's Complex) are just a couple out of dozens of places for a sip or a bite.

What do in the Bay Area

You have an interest in science, so you would probably get a kick out of the Exploratorium at the Palace of Fine Arts in SF.

The Bus

I just found out about the culture bus. Makes all sorts of fun museums, and the like that's already been named accessible by foot/transit. http://www.sfculturebus.org/ Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to go down to the Palace of Fine Arts or Legion of Honor, they're are other buses that do that.

Bay Area blegging

Hi Mark, I hear the weather is not going to be too auspicious. Rainy days in San Francisco can be a bit dreary--good movie and comfort food... I live in the Marina--if you get desperate, email me and my wife and I will take you to coffee.

Cuko

You seriously need to get a burrito from Cuco's at 488 Haight St. I once had two in the same day, they were that good. Sadly I don't live in SF anymore, and I long for them constantly.

Scomas is great seafood.

Scomas is great seafood. Lunch for two is probably $125 and worth it. Marcello's in the Castro is the closest thing to NYC style (ie, proper) pizza I've been able to find out here after searching. Christmas tree point has great views of most of the city, particularly at night.

Pulgas Water Temple

Beautiful site and neat to see the Hetch Hetchy water pouring into the reservoir within the little Grecian temple. See here for more info: http://sfwater.org/mto_main.cfm/MC_ID/20/MSC_ID/177/MTO_ID/308 It's very near Filoli, with beautiful gardens http://www.filoli.org/

House of Prime Rib

If you are looking for a good dinner, the House of Prime Rib is a great local restaurant. Reservations well in advance are usually required.

Best Ice Cream is in the Mission

You have two places, Bi Rite Creamery around 18th and Valencia (the 16th and Mission BART stop). And even better (best you might have in a long while), Humphry Slocombe just off of 24th in the Mission (about 5 minute walk, or less from the 24th and Mission BART stop). http://www.humphryslocombe.com/%7C_Home_%7C.html Other than that, on a nice day you should walk up the Filbert or Greenich steps to Coit tower. You can see Lauren Bacall's character's apartment from Dark Passage right there. To get in the mood for SF, you should watch Vertigo, Dark Passage, Maltese Falcon and Bullitt.

Honestly, what I think you

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Honestly, what I think you should do on Sunday is speak to a real estate agent about prices and locations in San Francisco / Oakland Berkeley / Marin. No better place on earth.

Where the cable gets pulled

The powerhouse for the cable car system- where the cable that pulls the car gets pulled. You can actually stand close to where the cable runs over the idlers. If you don't bring a video camera when you go there you will regularly kick yourself for the rest of your life. The Balclutha is a gem and a real clipper, not just an old sailing ship. Lunch at Fisherman's Wharf will put you close to the Maritime history park just south of the Marina. Lunch at Cliff House puts you close to nowhere, but hey, it's the Cliff House.

Ideas

*) The Farmer's Market in the Ferry Building is a great place to hang out, grab breakfast/coffee, and, if the weather works out, can be the start of a good walk along the waterfront. *) I'd second the recommendation for the new California Academy of Science in Golden Gate Park (and also second the tip to get there early). *) If you head up to the Legion of Honor Museum near the Presidio, there is great hike around through the woods, past the Golden Gate Bridge (can hike across if you want) and then down to Crissy Field. You can then wander back to the museum through the Presidio. One of the best "urban" hikes in the US. *) It's somewhat hard to reach by transit, but if you can find your way down to Baker Beach, the view of the Golden Gate is insane.

Another vote for...

The Exploratorium.

Alcatraz!

It's so obvious most people skip it, but Alcatraz isn't the commercial tourist trap people fear. If you've never gone, it's absolutely worth the money and the time, especially if you take the audio tour in the prison. It's a wonderful look at a particular time in our history, and a completely unique experience. This isn't the best time of year for the ferry ride, but once on the island you're mostly inside. If you've done that already, I'll Nth The Exploratorium. When it comes to hands-on science museums, it's the gold standard. The Exploratorium and the Cal Academy of Science are in the same part of Golden Gate park, BTW, so doing both of those is also an option if you want a really full day.

The Exploratorium and the

The Exploratorium and the Cal Academy of Sciences are indeed both worth visiting, they are not, however, anywhere near one another. The California Academy is in Golden Gate Park (across from the new deYoung Museum, also worth visiting), the Exploratorium is in the Marina district, right on the edge of the Presidio. If you do visit the Exploratorium, be sure to visit the Lucas Arts compound across the street, there's a beautiful park there, and a statue of Yoda if you are a Star Wars nerd.

Acch! Sorry. Chet is 100%

Acch! Sorry. Chet is 100% correct. Brain freeze on my part.

Asian Art Museum

The Asian Art Museum has a great, small collection of, you guessed it, Asian Art, easily accessible by public transit down at Civic Center. The fascinating show on Afghanistan just closed, unfortunately, but the new one on the sacred art of Bhutan is also great. And I'm not just saying this because my wife works there, honest.

What to Do in SF

Second the cable car powerhouse suggestion! When the fam & I went to SF four years ago, the most interesting part of our trip was taking the ferry to Alcatraz & touring it. Fascinating! You really should book your tickets in advance on the Internet because they go fast! There is another trip that takes in Angel Island as well as Alcatraz which sounds very interesting also (they were sold out or we would have taken this trip). Japan Town has some interesting shops with manga, anime & so forth. Chinatown is not really worth your time, IMO. The "real" Chinatown is an area north of Golden Gate Park (Richmond District) along & just north of Geary Blvd, with tons of good Chinese restaurants. The Straits Cafe (3300 Geary Blvd.) has very good Singaporean food.

One day? A ferry is

One day? A ferry is probably worthwhile (Tiboron for dinner?). Cal Academy isn't far from the MUNI N-line (9th and Irving). Spendy though (and crowded). They're actually funding science with your money. Also nearby is the San Francisco Botanical Garden and the De Young Museum. Should be nice in a couple of weeks. Telegraph Hill for a nice view (and parrots). What you should be asking about is breakfast and lunch.

How about the Dashiell

How about the Dashiell Hammett walking tour: http://www.donherron.com/tour.html A number of good jazz clubs (Yoshi's, Jazz at Perl's, Shanghai 1930, and whatever club Paula West is playing at).

Obvious, yes

This is obvious, but if the weather is good you can easily waste a whole day in Golden Gate Park. The Academy of Sciences has been mentioned, as well as the botanical gardens but within walking distance of those is the DeYoung museum, the Japanese Tea Gardens which is a nice time, and the Conservatory of Flowers which is nice if you like flowers. You can also rent bikes (if you are of that ilk) and bike down to see the Buffalo and feed the ducks at the lake. Also, 9th and Irvine (nearby) has a collection of decent and cheap places to eat (has a college feel). I second the Alcatraz vote and suggest investing in the audio tour. If you’re traveling by car, it’s worth making the trip up Twin Peaks to one of the best city views.

SF visit

Spend some time at Fisherman's Wharf. Seriously. If you ignore all the cheesy, touristy crap, there are the seals and a nice little Aquarium by the Bay, which you can walk through in about a half hour. There's a beautiful carousel, good for a look, if not a ride. Further west along the wharf is the Musee Mechanique, a great museum of old mechanical games. Behind the Musee is the Pampanito, a decommissioned submarine. Scoma's is also at the Wharf, for a good meal. Then take a bus to the Marina/Presidio and hit the Exploratorium. After the museum spend some time outside at the Crissy Field restoration, and maybe walk up to Fort Point under the Golden Gate Bridge. All good for the young at heart.

Also, the Jeremiah O'Brien

Also near Fisherman's Wharf: the Jeremiah O'Brien, the last surviving World War II Liberty Ship in its original condition (in full working order; it goes out on occasional day cruises, and some rare longer trips). The engine room is a lot of fun for people with a thing for old machinery, and no fear of heights...

SF Fu

*) The Ferry Terminal Farmer's Market is highly recommended, mandatory if you're even a .20 on the Ezra Foodie Scale. The views alone are spectacular. *) From the market you can descend into a Muni station and catch the N Judah line out to 9th Avenue & Juday, just south of Golden Gate Park. (This happens to be one of those charming-without-trying cafe-and-boutique-soaked neighborhoods, in you feel compelled to drop some lucrative tourist samoleans in our local economy.) *) I second the recommendations for the Academy of Sciences, conveniently located three blocks north of 9th & Juday! Though you might be flexible there, as it's relatively-newly opened and there've been manic crowds lately. *) Across from the Academy (literally a 3 minute walk) is the spectacular De Young museum. Contemporary, classic, worth it for the jaw-dropping facility alone. Be sure to ascend the turret-like tower for a nice view. *) You now are lingering in Golden Gate Park. The Japanese Tea Garden and Botanical Garden are both overshadowed gems.

One of my favorite places in

One of my favorite places in the world : Musée Mécanique http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mus%C3%A9e_M%C3%A9canique

Bike if it's nice

If the weather is good and you like bicycling, you can rent bikes in SF and go across the Golden Gate Bridge, through Sausalito, Mill Valley, and Tiburon, and ferry back. A lot of good food along the way too!

SF recommendations

Another great walk is Crissy Field/Fort Point (the fort sits right under the Golden Gate Bridge). Crissy Field was once the air field serving the Presidio/Fort Mason. Now it's a beautiful grassy expanse, fringed by a small beach, lovely walkway, and old army warehouses. There's a small coffee house if you need a warm-up.

GGNPC

Check out a hike or park on the Golden Gate National Parks Conservancy website. (Crissy Park is in this system.) The best pork Nancy Pelosi ever brought us. http://www.parksconservancy.org/

Good food, good ride

Cha Cha Cha at 1801 Haight St is a wonderful Puerto Rico/Chinese/Cuban tapas restaurant with santeria altars on the walls and the best sangria and tapas I've ever had and it's just down the street from Amoeba Records which is a hoot to visit. Lunch at the Burma Superstar (voted the best Burmese Restaurant on the West Coast by Asian Times mag) at 309 Clement St. is a real treat also, and it's in the middle of the new Chinatown, oh, and right down the street from The Russian Apothecary and across the street from the biggest Chinese herbal shop I've ever seen. Do ride the antique trollies to Fisherman's Wharf and find the Irish Bar there that originated Irish Coffee, it's close to the Wharf but not in it. Ditto on The Exploratorium!

Great ideas so far. couple

Great ideas so far. couple more: Coit Tower's murals still amaze; they're beautiful, historic, and who knows, maybe we'll have a new Public Works Administration soon enough? Plus a classic view of the bay and all 3 bridges. Want more public art: Balmy alley in the mission is worth the visit. And the Beach Chalet at the ocean end of GG Park: outstanding murals again, and two great eateries to boot. And if you want to venture farther out, come on out to Fairfax, Kevin, and we can take a hike on Mt Tam followed by the world's best organic ice cream from "The Scoop!"

Another ++ for the Ferry

Another ++ for the Ferry Building, although for the full foodie effect it's better on Saturdays when the Farmer's Market takes over. Hop a trolly out to GG park or over to the harbor, both are good fun depending on the weather and what you're in the mood for. For some kick-ass unpretentious food: http://www.nopasf.com/ on Divisadero, although you might have to eat at the bar or the community table, reservations can be hard to come by.

SF nonobvious

If you are staying in a hotel near Union Square, you should check out Xanadu Gallery at 140 Maiden Lane ( MVargas@XanaduGallery.us). This is an Asian/African arts and crafts gallery in a Frank Loyd Wright building. The business is not open on Sundays, but worth a look even if closed. If the weather is nice on Sunday morning, try brunch at the Ramp, a funky place you can get to on the new Muni streetcar line down 3rd st. Get off at Mariposa st and head east a couple of blocks (www.ramprestaurant.com). Not the greatest food, but a nice place to have a bloody Mary outdoors on the waterfront. Very San Francisco. Take BART to Berkeley. Go north on Shattuck ave five or six blocks to the Gormet Getto (Chez Panisse is closed Sundays, but you won't go hungry). Head up hill on Rose st to the Berkeley Rose garden. Great views of the Bay. and roses, too. Go to the Old Krakow restaurant in West Portal. Take Muni line M to West portal station. good Polish food (dziuggy.com/ok)

Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill

You could start the morning with a stroll along the Embarcadero, then over to Telegraph Hill and up to Coit Tower. On the Filbert Street side you might luck out and see a couple of the wild parrots. Then wander down to Washington Square in the North Beach area and have brunch at Mama's. "Beach Blanket Babylon" has a 2pm matinee just a couple blocks away. I suppose these might be "obvious" suggestions, but it would still make a fun day.

Red Vic or Samovar tea

might consider going to the Red Vic, depending on what they're playing. http://www.redvicmoviehouse.com/ also the samovar tea lounge http://samovarlife.com/

I second this non-obvious

I second this non-obvious suggestion: Go to the Old Krakow restaurant in West Portal. Take Muni line M to West portal station. good Polish food (dziuggy.com/ok) Also there are interesting Russian places in the Geary area north of the park. Everything else ethnic foodwise, Asian, Mexican, etc, are things you've got aplenty in socal.

If it's a first Sunday of

If it's a first Sunday of the month, the Alameda Point Antiques Fair can be an enjoyable early morning destination - actual antiques. You can get across the Bay by ferry, then cab service, if no car. The Yves Saint Laurent show at the de Young runs through April 5 and it's gorgeous. Fabric/drape art to die for. The guy was a genius. Our out-of-town company always seems to really enjoy the Bay Model Visitor's Center in Sausalito, with its working hydraulic model of SF Bay. I agree that the Ferry Terminal is lovely, but you really should hit that Saturday (8-2) to catch the Farmer's Market. Expensive but glorious food. Take a camera and shoot close-ups.

SF

1. Castro theater - best place to see a movie. Revivals and art-house in a beautiful theater and an organist plays before every show. Down the street from Twin Peaks - first gay bar that had windows, and a relaxed place to have a drink. 2. The best Alcatraz tour is at night (4 - 6:30 pm). Great views of the city and the rock in daylight on the way there and back. 3. North Beach: check City Lights book shop (Ferlinghetti's store), then go to Vesuvio or Tosca's for a drink. (Good to do after Alcatraz.) L'Osteria for good, inexpensive, non-touristy Italian. Walk back to downtown through Chinatown and Union Square. 4. Hard to get to by public transit (there's a bus, but it's not frequent) but on a sunny day, Sutro baths is nice. 5. Dolores Park. Close to the aforementioned Bi-Rite ice cream shop. Nice view and right off the J-church. Also check out the Mission Dolores, down the street, complete with 1800's-era cemetary and original parish. 6. If you're not in a hurry, take the F-market to or from the Castro or Fisherman's wharf (fewer tourists on the Castro side). 7. Sunday is a great time to go to GG park - JFK drive is closed and perfect for renting bikes there. Paddle boat or rowing in Stow Lake is fun on a nice day.

I will make a few contrarian

I will make a few contrarian suggestions, which I am entitled to as a former resident of The City. 1. Absolutely do NOT go anywhere near Fisherman's Wharf. It is all touristy crap. The restaurants there all suck. If you want to see the ocean, go to Ocean Beach, it's actually facing the Pacific, unlike the Wharf which faces the Bay. 2. The Exploratorium has been recommended repeatedly. I suggest avoiding it. I went once, and due to all the mind-bending optical illusions and flashing lights, I was dizzy for 2 weeks afterwards. Sure it's interesting, but it's also a prescription for brain damage. Now what is really important about SF: food. SF is a food city. If you don't come back raving about the restaurants, you probably ate at your hotel every day. I know Kevin is a carnivore, so I'll recommend Lilly's Barbeque on Divisadero. Also, I will particularly endorse Sanraku-Four Seasons, a sushi place near Union Square (and the best sushi place I've ever eaten at in the US, it rivals the best places I ate in Japan). Another famous place is The Pork Store in the Haight-Ashbury district, hit it for breakfast (try some enormous ham & egg dish with home fries) and then take a walking tour of the Haight.

So many good things to do!

I highly recommend the brand new California Academy of Sciences, if you have half a day for it. Be sure to show up early (like 10am at the latest) to grab tickets for the planetarium show. The De Young is right next door, and you can check out some of the outdoor sculptures without paying to get in, also see if you can find the Andy Goldsworthy installation. The SF Moma and the Exploritorium are also really cool places to visit. Foodies are advised to check out the Ferry Building at the Embarcadero downtown. The folks advising you above are right. If you want kitschy boutique shopping or just window snooping, check out Valencia street in the Mission and Hayes st. in Hayes Valley, both areas are a swarm in tchotchkies and great lunch venues. Don't forget to bring your hipster-watching guidebook. If you have a car, pop over the golden gate bridge and take the first exit, from there you can cruise around the spectacular Marin headlands. Or if you are secretly a big nerd you should stop by Isotope Comics in Hayes Valley, and tell James the internet says hi. And finally If you want to score some methamphetamine you can stop by the Haight street entrance to golden gate part, or any corner on the Tenderloin. Restaurants you should consider! Tadich Grill - downtown, chioppino to kill for Cafe Sport - also wonderful seafood, in North Beach Cafe Zuni - Excellent organic & local Italian but very $$$$ Arizmendi Bakery - Co-operative owned bakery, great for breakfast or lunch pizzas if you are out near the museums, near the N Judah line. Zuppenkutche - great german food, also large beers Cocktails are good here: Slanted Door - in the ferry building Orbit Room - on Market st. near the Castro Casanova - the mission's premier dive bar Restaurants you should not consider: Anything in fisherman's wharf, good for a bread bowl 'n chowder but I wouldn't sit down in one ever again. Welcome to San Francisco... BRING MONEY!

10 AM, Sunday academey of science

From 10 am to 11 am on Sunday, it's member's only. I suggest you pair up with some locals who have memberships and tag along with them. Somebody would surely sign up for that. But surely Golden Gate Park is the place for visiting. Bring your roller skates / rent a bike / etc and check out the Kennedy Drive action on Sunday. Just a massive hangout of families trolling through the park drive, since it's closed to cars on Sundays. And the outside roller-disco. And then pop into the DeYoung museum, or score a contact high on Hippy Hill.

Everett and Jones BBQ is

Everett and Jones BBQ is about a 15 minute walk from Lake Merritt Station in Oakland. It's really good BBQ and I think I remember that you're into that.

urban stairwells

It may seem odd, but my favorite thing to do when I visit San Francisco is to seek out the staircases -- I just love the way streets turn into stairs in that city. The Filbert steps to Coit tower is a great set, as is the stairs on Lyons street next to the Presidio, but my favorite is the very long, steep Vallejo street stair to Russian Hill. I've jogged up it at 6 am many a time and it never fails that there is an eldely chinese guy doing tai chi in the patch of grass at the top, which just completes the moment when you top out on the stairs and look back to the bay.

The cartoon art museum

The cartoon art museum http://www.cartoonart.org/ might appeal to you. If you've never been to Alcatraz, it's pretty fascinating, gets you out onto the water, lets you bypass the Fisherman's wharf scene, and go somewhere. San Francisco's charm for me has always been in its neighborhoods outside the tourist traps. Some nice walking tours here http://www.sfcityguides.org/ Taking one of the Haight would leave you close to Golden Gate Park.

Architecture

John King writes about architecture for the SF Chron: http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/king/archive/ If you like to go look at buildings that are interesting, look at his archive and plan to view a few. There are many terrific buildings (old and new) in walking distance from where ever you might be staying (as long as you aren't on Lombard by Fisherman's Wharf or at the west end of Geary Blvd.). The Ferry Building for sure, and if you are a burger enthusiast try Taylor's Automatic Refresher in the FB. Great great shops in the FB, and if you possibly can, do go early on Saturday (they are there before 7 am) to look at the Farmers' Market vendors. Golden Gate park on Sunday is really beautiful, and if you love growing things, there are many horticultural areas. And statues - I like to look at/read the statues, too. Most of all, have a lovely time (I sure hope it doesn't rain). Lois Quick

SF visit

I've lived here for 35 years, and most of the suggestions that have been given have totally depressed me. There's not much actual San Francisco character left. The only suggestion I can second is: 3. North Beach: check City Lights book shop (Ferlinghetti's store), then go to Vesuvio or Tosca's for a drink. On the other hand, if it's a nice day go walking anywhere - Fisherman's Wharf, Union Square, the Embarcadero, the steps on Telegraph Hill, North Beach. You can't miss. If you have to eat, you can check out John's Grill. That's where Sam Spade would chow down on pork chops (still very good).

Lucky for Kevin the Britex

Lucky for Kevin the Britex fabric store is closed on Sunday. http://www.britexfabrics.com/index.html Anonymous, where would have you taken Kevin 30 years ago?

30 years ago

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