Indispensable?

| Thu Mar. 19, 2009 9:19 PM PDT
Is it really true that the traders who created AIG's CDS mess in the first place are also the only ones with the knowledge to unwind it successfully?  Do we really need to pay millions of dollars to keep them around?  Simon Johnson, who certainly has the experience to know, says no:

If A.I.G. wants to argue that complex transactions, hedging positions and counterparty relationships require employees who are intimately familiar with those trades, it should at least provide evidence that the arguments for doing so are sounder than the ones made in Indonesia in 1997, when leading bank-owning conglomerates claimed that only they understood their financing arrangements, which certainly were complex. Or the Russian bankers in 1998 who were convinced that only they and their friends could possibly close the deals that they had taken on. We heard variants of the same idea in Poland in 1990, Ukraine in 1994 (and in the Ukrainian crises subsequently), and Argentina in 2002.

Any grain of truth in these arguments must be weighed against the costs of allowing discredited insiders to manage institutions after they have blown them up. Even if the conclusion is that a few experts need to be retained, offering guaranteed bonuses to virtually the entire operation is hardly the way to achieve the desired results. We should not let people think that the best way to guarantee job security is to lose lots of money in a really complicated way.

Charles de Gaulle said it best: “The cemeteries of the world are full of indispensable men.”  If the current crew isn't willing to work for anything less than a million bucks a year, I doubt that AIG will have much trouble replacing them with someone who will.

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I find it odd that banking

I find it odd that banking is considered to be so full of brilliant people that no one can replace. Ever. How did this perception come about? I think the answer is a combo of "it's not real" and "only a few know how to talk about this unreality in a way that makes it sound real." What is needed is a bunch of smart folks (there are lots of them) who are willing to say "this is crap" and then go about cleaning the mess up. What is not needed is a bunch of people saying that the crap is too complex to understand. Crap is, at its most fundamental, easy for people (not just smart people) to understand. We have a lot of it in our financial system, unfortunately.

RE: Bankers are viewed as brilliant

Bankers and financial analysts are generally those who couldn't become mathmeticians, physists or engineers. No one thinks higher of them than they do of themselves.

Find them in academe

I'm against having the people handing out billions of dollars being ones who have had friendly cocktails with those who are receiving billions of dollars.

I'm not an academic and I"m not a banker, but let's go to finance, banking, and economics schools. Maybe find some people who worked in banking back when accountants could actually review and assess the finance books of the Masters of the Universe. Wall Street is not the only reservoir of people with financial, accounting, and banking acumen.

But tilt against, rather than towards, those who know the names of the malefactor's godparents.

I hereby declare that I will

I hereby declare that I will run any financial institution willing to have me into the ground for a mere $250,000. C'mon! It's a bargain! Why pay some smartass guy you probably don't even like $500,000 base pay plus millions more in retention bonuses to screw things up six ways from Sunday when I will do it for a fraction of the cost?

Let the bid down begin

I'll take $239,900 plus health insurance.

who?

C'mon, who you gonna believe, Rand, or some french dude? I love that quote, it's especially humbling for those of us who aren't indispensable.

Maybe we should announce

Maybe we should announce that TRULY GIGANTIC reward money -- large fractions of the value of any uncovered fraud -- will be available to the first few people at AIG, or elsewhere in this Titanic mess, who come forward with actionable evidence of fraud. See what shakes out. Titanic and Capone Bank and Trust.

The child in the well

It is unlikely that the AIG transactions are something only the geniuses that ran the company into the ground can understand. There are a bunch of problems though. One of them is that the winding down is not (yet?) a post-mortem exercise, i.e. anybody coming in must have a flying start and even then a minimum amount of cooperation from the old crew is required to get oriented as quickly as possible. It also wouldn't surprise me at all that if there is any grain of truth to the claim that the insider knowledge of the perpetrators is required, it is because they haven't properly documented what they were doing. When the AIG problem became acute in September 2008 and the first taxpayer money had to be injected, the Fed most likely did not have the people needed to take over any significant part of the winding down process. However, if ever possible it should have brought in at least some outside people, so that somebody would have looked the AIG employees over the shoulder what they were doing. Maybe these outsiders would not immediately have been able to understand every detail. But we are now in March 2009. After six months any half ways intelligent outsider probably would have a reasonably good grasp of the AIG operations. It is almost for sure that in the case of AIG the child has already fallen into the well, but in principle the regulatory framework that needs to be drawn up as a consequence of this disaster should include some things like setting up an institution outside of the banking industry (in academia or within the realms of the Fed or the government) that trains a bunch of people and provides them with the multi-disciplinary knowledge required to understand the derivatives-writing business and how the models that are being used work. In normal times these people should do oversight and in case of an emergency like AIG they should be sent in to supervise the winding down process. Any institution that then wants to trade in derivatives, in particular in CDS's, whether based on a sophisticated theoretical model or not should, be required to do two things: 1. Pay a fee to participate in the financing of this outside institution 2. Open up their practices to inspection by the experts of the outside institution Beyond a certain size of the bank or insurer, the inspections of business practices must include revealing what theoretical models, if any, are being used. This may need to be done under confidentiality, but if a bank or an insurer is not prepared to disclose these models, they either have to drop their use or they need to split into smaller units. There needs to be an absolute firewall between the outside institution and the banking/insurance industry. At least in the direction from the outside institution to the banking/insurance industry, so that the industry can not undermine the institution by hiring away the experts. This means that the experts will need to be paid salaries commensurate with what the banking/insurance industry pays its own experts. If there is a danger that the taxpayer is on the hook for the consequences of what the derivative guys are doing, the public needs to be able to police their activities. And the cops must be armed at least at par with the guys they are supposed to police. The industry won't like this of course, but in light of the disaster they have caused, overcoming their resistance should not be a problem if the political will is there. And complaining about the fees should be a non-starter after the bonuses fiasco. PS: Anonymous at 3:30 is right - to reveal possible actions of fraud and prevent tunneling in AIG, it would be a good idea to provide strong incentives to whistleblowers.

Seize the AIG London Unit

The government surely has the authority to seize the London unit, fire the employees, then let a contract to some accounting firm to unwind the positions?

Galbraith

Kevin, I'm hoping you'll comment on the James Galbraith article in the Washington Monthly the other day (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2009/0903.galbraith.html - "No Return to Normal"). He seems to offer the clearest vision of the way forward, while echoing many of the complaints that we hear from both right and left about bailing out the banks. The Bernanke/Geithner/Paulson/Bush/Obama strategy of bailing out the big financial players is fundamentally flawed, though probably preferable to the do nothing approach favored by many influential critics. The emphasis should be on restoring household solvency, not on encouraging the financial system to make more loans. On this, I agree with many of the conservative critics. I'm sick of bailouts because they just seem designed to get us back to where we were a few years ago, with unsustainable levels of consumer debt in relation to income...

Do you want them...

Standing inside the tent and pissing out, or standing outside the tent and pissing in. I've read that headhunters are going after the AIG employees only because they know the full extent of the problems. And the ex-AIG employees would know how to play the market to benefit their new employers at AIG and the taxpayer's expense. Unless the government is able to have them banned from working in the financial sector, 165 million just might be a good investment. Personally, I believe we should go gitmo on their ass for a weekend, and let them know there's plenty more where that came from.

Extortionists

Personally, I believe we should go gitmo on their ass for a weekend, and let them know there's plenty more where that came from.
Indeed, because EXTORTION IS ILLEGAL. Even when practiced by Masters of the Universe.

Wha???

If these guys knew so much, then how did this mess happen? "You signed the papers. You wanted to be here!" -Drill Sgt. Leach, 1971

I suggest a more humane

I suggest a more humane version of the Guantanamo model for AIG malefactors. Round them all up as suspects, place them in cages, and question them as the need arises or just for yucks. Feed them, provide them with medical care, and give special treats to those who volunteer useful information and rat on their colleagues. Don't let them touch anything within AIG ever again, and monitor their communications: They can convey their wishes and instructions through more trustworthy parties who are accountable to the taxpayers.

Tunnelling

There's another aspect of this story that Simon Johnson brings up. He says that during financial crises where there is no coherent response, insiders start looting their employers. In the U.S. they can do it through quick, unjustified bonuses. There is evidence that the looting at AIG began more than a year ago when the insiders knew the game was up and it was time to cash in quick and get out. And I'm sure that AIG is not the only example.

What would Einstein do?

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." ---A. Einstein I take this man's wisdom slightly more serious that some financial-whiz-MBA playing with a spreadsheet. WE NEED NEW THINKING NOW!

doesn't all this "only we

doesn't all this "only we can understand this, therefore do as we tell you" remind anyone of the run-up to the Iraq war? I remember arguing with people who claimed Saddam had WMD who asked me to tell them exactly what kinds of weapons he did have, and saying my judgment couldn't be better than theirs if I didn't know exactly what was in those bunkers. The arguments about our current banking crisis sound very familiar. People can tell that they're being lied to even if they don't know the entire truth. That happened during the Iraq war, and it's happening now. We shouldn't have let our government get away with it then, and we shouldn't let AIG and its counterparties (all technically owned by our government these days, remember) get away with it now.

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