Map of the Day
| Mon May. 18, 2009 7:56 AM PDT
Via Ezra Klein, here's an instructive map that visually makes a point I've brought up a few times in the past: as bad as global warming is in general, one of its worst aspects is that developed countries (like us) are the ones causing the biggest part of the problem, but it's underdeveloped countries that are going to suffer the biggest part of the damage. In the map on the right, taken from a Lancet study, the top panel shows each country by the size of its carbon emissions, while the bottom map shows each country by the number of deaths its likely to suffer due to global warming. Long story short, we spit out the carbon, but it's people in Africa and South Asia who are mostly going to die because of it.
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Boy am I glad that global
Submitted by thersites on Mon May. 18, 2009 8:11 AM PDT.
Boy am I glad that global warming is a hoax. Otherwise I might have trouble sleeping at night.
Even more interesting would
Submitted by John hansen (not verified) on Mon May. 18, 2009 9:22 AM PDT.
Even more interesting would be a map detailing where people exist who really take seriously stupidly drawn maps that project deaths due to Global Warming from garbage information dumped into even worse computer models adding on a few erroneous assumptions.
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Sorry about the caustic
Submitted by John Hansen (not verified) on Mon May. 18, 2009 9:28 AM PDT.
Sorry about the caustic nature of the above comment, but if any of you have ever really done large scale computer modeling of natural phenomena ( like I did for my Ph.D. thesis ) you would realize why this issue frustrates me so much.
Imagine the roles reversed
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon May. 18, 2009 9:46 AM PDT.
I sometimes imagine what would happen if poor countries were doing most of the polluting, and the US was likely to sustain most of the damage. I bet we would hear a lot of talk about military solutions, and feel perfectly entitled to do so. Instead of spraying poppy fields in Colombia, we might be patrolling countries to keep their carbon emissions down. Thankfully, for other countries this is not an option since we spend more than everybody else on our military.
China has caught US
Submitted by BigTom (not verified) on Mon May. 18, 2009 10:19 AM PDT.
China has caught the US in emissions, but the map clearly shows US>>China. Unless it is old data -or cumulative emissions until now, it is simply wrong.
Well, if Global Warming
Submitted by Rainboskies (not verified) on Mon May. 18, 2009 10:47 AM PDT.
Well, if Global Warming doesn't kill the poorest of countries, lack of health care, clean water and ill-nutrition will, due to the fact these countries aren't allowed electricity or the use of pesticides from some damn U.N. resolution.
If you'll let me put on my
Submitted by MNPundit (With a Trolling Hat) (not verified) on Mon May. 18, 2009 2:29 PM PDT.
If you'll let me put on my trolling hat for a second:
If suddenly the population of 3rd world was reduced by half, wouldn't that be better for everyone left alive?
This is not new news.
Submitted by Trippp on Mon May. 18, 2009 2:54 PM PDT.
This is not new news. Humanity has never sustained an equitable society for very long. Those with power have always used it to meet their needs first.
It seems the best we can do is create a Camelot every now and then, for a little while. I wish we would stop being in denial about this. It is not something to be proud of, for sure, but it is a fact of life. Maybe admitting this part of our nature is the next step in our journey.
Tripp
Check the source
Submitted by kwo (not verified) on Mon May. 18, 2009 3:09 PM PDT.
Did you say the original study came from the Lancet? Hmm.
And that the U.S. Military alone...
Submitted by snicker-snack (not verified) on Mon May. 18, 2009 5:44 PM PDT.
Thankfully, for other countries this is not an option since we spend more than everybody else on our military.
...and that the U.S. military alone is responsible for 25% of the oil used in the U.S. and 5% of the oil used worldwide. Those Raptors etc. are not the most energy efficient of beasts.
it's really a excellent map,
Submitted by Ivy (not verified) on Mon May. 18, 2009 6:59 PM PDT.
it's really a excellent map, i guess. but i have a quick question: does china have already caught the US? i do not know.
A couple of points on the
Submitted by ajay (not verified) on Tue May. 19, 2009 12:55 AM PDT.
A couple of points on the maps: first, as BigTom suspected, the top chart is cumulative emissions 1950-2000, not annual emissions at present; hence the US is larger than China. Second, the lower chart doesn't show absolute number of deaths, but mortality per million of population - so South Africa and Nigeria and Egypt aren't just huge on the map because they've got big populations, but because they'll also be the worst hit.
Lancet?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue May. 19, 2009 8:14 AM PDT.
Right- another lie from a notoriously anti-American left-wing publication. But those who always "blame America first" eat it up!
I can think of a few.
Submitted by tiffany jewelry (not verified) on Sat Aug. 15, 2009 12:57 AM PDT.
I can think of a few. Usually it is because of conquest. Troy, Persepolis, Chaco canyon, come to mind. Sometimes there is no going back.
Interesting view.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu Oct. 15, 2009 4:22 AM PDT.
Those maps certainly highlight the issue in an interesting way. I guess sadly the point illustrated by them, that those causing the majority of the problem will not be those that suffer the most, is part of the problem we have in seriously addressing climate change.
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