Press Conference Liveblogging

| Wed Jul. 22, 2009 4:30 PM PDT

Half an hour into tonight's press conference Barack Obama has answered a grand total of three questions.  This is not a good performance.  He really needs to pick up the pace and make his answers crisper and more comprehensible.

UPDATE: Aside from the rambling nature of his replies, I don't think Obama has been good on substance either.  His opening statement had a little bit of good stuff about healthcare security, but he's spent the vast bulk of his time on deficits and cost cutting.  That's just not a good sales job.

UPDATE 2: All done.  I'm curious to hear what other people thought, but this really struck me as nowhere near his usual performance.  Obama avoided giving direct answers, rambled a lot, kept interrupting himself with asides, and didn't explain things in terms that ordinary viewers were likely to understand.  He's supposed to be the communicator-in-chief, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people came away more confused than they were when they tuned in.  Bottom line: There were bits and pieces that were fine, but overall I'd give it a C-.  Other comments?

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Obama's speech

Oh my, i agree and see this speech as potential negative turning point. Oh my, oh my.

Obama's speech sucked.

Obama's speech sucked. Chalk that up to not knowing what the hell is in the health care bill in the first place. And not coming clean with the details that he knows the public doesn't want to hear.

I grade it a "fail."

Not an "EPIC FAIL."

Not yet, at least. If the health care bill goes down in flames, then I reserve the right to change the grade.

As an average American and

As an average American and being nowhere close to your level of knowledge regarding this matter I thought he did a good job of explaining things in the context of a press conference. Perhaps you know too much, which is a good thing, and that makes it seem like a poor performance. As an aside I am impressed that he can think and function at the level he does at 8pm at night after a long day at work.

Obama showed his fire

Disagree with the post, and the other commenters. Obama showed, with thoughtful replies and smart examples, that he cares about this and has set principles for the outcome. That he knows all the places the sausage is being made, and what's being put in. That's being an executive. He didn't dumb it down for the American people -- and if that's to his discredit, then we don't deserve reform.

Press Conference

I got a different read on it. The audience wasn't just the electorate, but the WH press corps. They got the unflappable, the pragmatic, the "this isn't about me" President. His main message that the status quo and the inertia that plagues Washington weren't options was delivered often. I thought it was effective.

OK job

I disagree. I think he got the point across. The demotivation argument of the opponents will be the "we can't afford it" argument. That will be the primary strategy to defeat it. He hammered that. After all that is what the blue dogs are saying.

Money quote: "If your neighbor bought the same car that you did for $6,000 less wouldn't you want to figure out how to get the same deal?" Now that is an argument the every American can understand and it should be plastered on every bus and billboard and tv station for the next 2 months.

Obama needs to pace himself

Obama is not a natural high-energy hypomanic like Bill Clinton or Teddy Roosevelt. He has his good times and his bad times, so he needs to schedule his days carefully so he isn't either too low or too burnt out when he needs to be at his best.

Plus, he needs a lot of practice, like he insisted upon for his 2004 Keynote address.

Also, can we stop pestering him to stop smoking and just let him self-medicate in peace?

President Obama did fine.

This was a press conference, Kevin, not a defense of a PhD dissertation. He did exactly what he had to do, which was speak directly to the average American. I'd have been disturbed had he started preaching to the choir of policy wonks like you and me.

Stepped on his own lede

Obama's mistake was to say the Cambridge Police Dept. responded "stupidlly" to the Gates call. Though absolutely correct, that willl get more attention in the press than his healthcare message.

If he is arguing more about general principles than actual policy measures at this point in the healthcare debate, than there is lttile chance of real progress.

To my mind, there is no way healthcare reform was going to pass without Kennedy or Daschle. Obama is responsible for one of those being absent.

g. powell is right

I missed the press conference, but based on a sample of Boston talk radio this morning it was all about "Obama and his pal Gates."

But the larger question is: why the f*ck does the President of the United States even have to have an opinion about a police matter in a city 500 (+/-) miles away? Yes, the CPD didn't come off well in this matter but nobody was killed, or even injured, and if it wasn't a Harvard professor none of us, not even Boston area residents, would have ever heard about it.

I'd give it an A+. He

I'd give it an A+. He doesn't know what's in the legislation, he can't explain how we're going to pay for it besides exorbitant taxes on high income earners, he can't explain how medical care is not going to be rationed, he can't explain how its not going to crowd out over crowded waiting rooms. So for anyone not waiting the government to socialize medicine and take over 1/6th of the economy, ya I'd say he helped defeat the program.

Before you jump on me, I'm all for everyone having access to healthcare. But not this plan. Because as sure as shit they pass this program six months later we' find out just how bad this legislation is. And if you don't believe that just look at the Stimulus package. Had he reached out even just a bit to Republicans to incorporate a few of their ideas, he would have actually gotten some bipartisan support and he wouldn't be bogged down.

Mark this failure to launch squarely on Obama's shoulders.

Thought he did pretty good

I thought he did a pretty good job. His response to the first question was weak, but then he hit his stride. There were a few talking-points answers but overall he did a good job of actually engaging the questions and trying to explain the need for reform. I thought his biggest mistake was not hammering harder on the fact that the US system costs so much more than other nations.

The questions were in general higher quality than I expected, with a few exceptions (namely the Gates groaner at the end.) I turned off the conference at that point. I dispute that he's 'stepping on his own lede' - the press corps has noone but itself to blame if they focus on his response to the press corps question.

He didn't hit it out of the park. Arguably he needed to. But he dun pretty great for a Q&A session (as opposed to a prepared speech.)

I thought he did fine...

I'm not an Obama fan, as such. Didn't vote for the guy. But the snippets I heard on the radio of today's press conference seemed rational and well-reasoned. I give him a lot of credit for going to the mat for all this, and am energized to help make it a reality by doing my best to help shove my mushy Senator (Feinstein) into his camp.

I think Anon in Portland (upthread) prolly put it best: "He didn't dumb it down for the American people -- and if that's to his discredit, then we don't deserve reform."

Patrick Meighan
Culver City, CA

It's over

I didn't think it was too bad. But guess what? This war is over and he's lost.

He lost because he wasn't fighting for anything worth fighting for -- he wasn't proposing a single payer system, he wasn't fighting for universal coverage. I really don't know what this "reform" is.

The so-called "public option" is what exactly? Lay it out. What is it modeled on?

One reporter asked him what Americans would sacrifice in this plan. This would have been the perfect time to reinforce the idea that the "reform" would not force you to give up your existing health coverage. But, of course, he didn't do this.

America hates government. Period. Americans would rather die than approve of a plan that guarantees YOU health coverage. If their neighbors kid gets cancer that is a bad break. If their kid gets cancer it is a tragedy.

Soon the Republicans will be back in power -- a big break for liberal bloggers -- and all will be back to normal in America. It is exactly what the country deserves.

My Take

Regardless of how well or poorly Obama did tonight, I can't help but think back to the previous occupant of the White House. Can you imagine him holding forth for as long as Obama did, on a topic as complicated as this, without resorting to incessantly repeated bumper sticker talking points? If for no other reason than this, we are miles ahead today on health care reform.

You mean Bush couldn't have

You mean Bush couldn't have read as well from the teleprompter?

When during the Q&A portion

When during the Q&A portion of the press conference (which was almost the entire time spent) did Obama use a teleprompter?

So far, Obama strikes me as not a leader

He's let all his major policies be defined by someone else. He hasn't put the screws to obstructionists in his own party. He's letting Netanyahoo push him around with impunity. He's let the national security apparatus maneuver him into adopting the Bush viewpoint lock, stock and barrel. It isn't clear to me that he has led on anything.

...

Once again, statements off the cuff ramble. That's pretty normal.

I thought his opening was good. I think that we couldn't hear most of the people shouting at him was actually a problem.

It made perfect sense to me.

It made perfect sense to me.

"He's let all his major

"He's let all his major policies be defined by someone else. He hasn't put the screws to obstructionists in his own party. He's letting Netanyahoo push him around with impunity"

I keep on hearing how Obama's too passive and his opponents are in the driving
seat. And then, one by one, his opponents melt down with a divorce scandal, an
incompetent spendthrift campaign, an irresponsible VP pick ... and Obama wins.
Easily. Either he's really really lucky, or he's got some serious chops. Either way,
I wouldn't bet against him.

On the specifics of healthcare, the House bill is ok; the Senate bill will be crappy, since
Baucus is involved. But the key question is who gets picked for the conference
committee to resolve the differences ? Obama understands that perfectly, and that's
the point where Obama and Emanuel will be respectively sweet-talking and threatening
the key players.

As for Netanyahu, he's not fooling anybody. My bet is that his government won't last
to the end of the year. Obama and Clinton have laid out a decent policy, and I expect
they'll do what it takes to implement it, slowly and patiently.

He did fine

I liked what I heard. It's an even numbered day, so Kevin is in one state or another on health care reform, I can't keep track. Meanwhile, I'm still thinking some sort of health care reform passes in the fall. Is it what I would design? No. Is it better than the clusterf we have now? Probably.

Agree with your comments,

Agree with your comments, especially considering what he needed to accomplish tonight-- scare the shit out of the blue dogs and provoke the republicans into saying stuff/acting obviously stupid. Right now, he needs to talk more like a coach: (bring it on-- we'll take them out-- get out of the way) and less like a prof.

Krugman's take

Krugman's review.

Good Job

I agree with the other commenters who disagree with you, Kevin. I am visiting my parents tonight, and after walking in their door this evening, the first thing my mom said to me was "didn't you think the President sounded good?" Initially, I was not impressed with his press coference either, which I listened to in the car. However, knowing my parents are not super political people, vote Republican or Democrat depending on whatever issues are loudest at the moment, my mom asking me that kind of changed my mind. If Obama reached them, hopefully he reached others who are as equally as a-political as they are.

Excellent

I thought it was an excellent performance. Maybe you needed more caffeine to keep up with his detailed and thoughtful answers. I'll give it an A

I Disagree

He took some needed potshots at the Republicans, turned the focus onto those flesh-and-blood people suffering from the current system, and succeeded in enumerating the unacceptability of the status quo. The issue is complex, there are details to be worked out, and it does not lend itself to the kind of crisp answers you value so much.

Keep in mind his speech was

Keep in mind his speech was intended for moderates who are concerned with the current direction of the health care bills. In that light, his commitment to bend the curve of costs and to fully pay for the bill is reassuring considering that the current bills do neither. In addition he quickly mentioned that his preference for raising additional revenue was taxing health care benefits for the wealth instead of a income tax increase, this is a huge issue for moderate to right leaning people. In my mind his speech was largely successful at signaling to those concerned about the bill that he is committed to his original goal of lowering health care costs even if the current house and senate committees are not. I seriously doubt a bill will get passed that does not do these things, so maybe he was also signaling to Democratic congressional leaders, this is what I sold to the public and if you don't do it they will not be on board...

Obama's Presser

Wrong, Kevin. BHO did great last night. He showed mastery, seriousness, caring. He took down a lot of RNC talking points (and more than a few "Blue Dog" ones as well).

This is what government by competent people looks like: explaining complex things in an effort to garner support. My guess is that two weeks from now this will be cited as a (the?) turning point when health insurance reform became a done-deal.

I thought he was great. His

I thought he was great. His opening speech was the most COMMANDING he has ever been. He deftly addressed his critics, and made it clear This Is Going To Get Done!!!! I thought he answered the questions well, even if he did take a bit of time to do so. I thought he addressed most people's concerns, especially those manufactured concerns the right has been trying to plant in their heads.

It seems to me Obama is

It seems to me Obama is going about this the wrong way. The elephant in the closet is the $35,000,000,000,000 in unfunded future Medicare liabilities. This is the problem. According to the NYT this morning 90% of American's have health insurance (this shocked me because the number they have been using is 40,000,000 people, why suddenly is it now only 10%?). So trying to solve the unfunded Medicare problem by addressing the insurance needs for 10% of the population is never going to work unless there is just a huge paradigm shift that simply results in higher taxes and reduced cost via rationing. Why not address the Medicare problem by itself head on and admit that your Congressmen and women have delivered a program to past generations that future generations can never pay for. Fix Medicare but don't do it by a sleight of hand by offering insurance for all. That will only make it worse.

And besides, it is

And besides, it is dishonest. Just like the Stimulus package and Cap and Trade.

In sound-bite America

Kevin's question really is whether it played well, and there I think he's unduly pessimistic. The Daily News today headlines it as about Obama playing "salesman-in-chief" to a "tough crowd." The New York Times focuses on a money quote in more ways than one, on the cost of doing nothing. It sounds convincing, and ironically Yglesias, who didn't bother to catch it or read the transcript, quotes a pundit saying what the Dems should say, and it's exactly that. Meanwhile the quote on Gates got more play everywhere, because race is easier for the press to get America worked up about than their future. So on balance, the length of his answers matters only to those with the time or obsession to watch press conferences.

Liberals suck

I hate liberals.

Liberals suck.

Obama is a liberal so he sucks.

I hate all liberals.

I post comments here because I want the whole world to know how much I hate liberals.

Because hating liberals is pretty much the only thing happening in my pathetic life.

Liberals all suck and I hate them.

I'll be back later on to post more comments all about how I hate liberals. Who suck.

I disagree with you Kevin. I

I disagree with you Kevin. I am one of those who is OK with his own health care packages. I am on Medicare and I have a food supplemental. It had not registered with me how much this means to the economy and what the prognosis is for long term debt. That current structures will break us. So I am one of the target audience. The comfortable majority. I got more motivated. It worked. What do you want, Kevin? If he is brisk and simple he is not telling the truth. If he attacks he loses support in the Congress. This is his wonk self and he hit the notes that he needed to. I agree with the commenter above who reminds us that he has the press to influence. I heard some of the usual doubters be more positive this morning in the teevee at the gym which is the only place I get to see the bastards do their talking head stuff. If you think Obama rambled you should have seen Rudy on CNN. He was almost in St. Vitus Dance mode.

Awww. SecularAnimist is

Awww. SecularAnimist is resorting to sockpuppetry. How sweet.

But let's talk shop:

Please tell me what Obama meant when he said this:

"Senior citizens who right now have a so-called donut hole in their plan, where after spending a certain amount on prescription drugs suddenly they drop off a cliff and they've got to pocket the entire cost, suddenly half of that is filled."

Once you figure that out, then tell me if Medicare is so great, and should be an example of government health care, then why are seniors having this problem (whatever it is)?

When asked about the tax increases on the wealthiest Americans, Obama responded:

"They're going to have to give up paying for things that don't make them healthier. And I -- speaking as an American, I think that's the kind of change you want."

Like what? I want details. Why should the wealthy give up on things that don't make them healthier - I'm presuming things like smoking and alcohol and what not - and not ask the same from the middle and lower classes?

Then he said abuses in a federal health plan are easier to fix than abuses in a private health plan. Wrong. You can sue private companies. You can't sue the government without the government's permission.

How many times did he throw doctors under the bus? Accusing them of doing unnecessary surgeries on children just to make money? That doctors aren't making medical decisions?

Wow. When did Obama start hating doctors?

I actually thought this was

I actually thought this was the best of his press conferences thus far.

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