Pricking Bubbles

| Tue Jul. 7, 2009 9:21 AM PDT

Alan Greenspan famously argued that the Fed shouldn't pay attention to asset bubbles.  They're hard to identify, he said, dangerous to prick, and can be better dealt with after they deflate.  This was, roughly speaking, the "Greenspan put," which served to make the recent housing bubble worse than it otherwise would have been, since investors knew the Fed would do nothing to stop the party while it was underway and would always be around afterward to help clean up.

Via Simon Johnson, I see that recently appointed New York Fed chairman William Dudley, a longtime bubble hawk, gave a speech a few days ago taking issue with Greenspan's claims:

Relative to this, I would argue that:

1. Asset bubbles may not be that hard to identify — especially large ones. For example, the housing bubble in the United States had been identified by many by 2005, and the compressed nature of risk spreads and the increased leverage in the financial system was very well known going into 2007.

2. If one means by monetary policy the instrument of short-term interest rates, then I agree that monetary policy is not well-suited to deal with asset bubbles. But this suggests that it might be better for central bankers to examine the efficacy of other instruments in their toolbox, rather than simply ignoring the development of asset bubbles.

3. If existing tools are judged inadequate, then central banks should work on developing additional policy instruments.

Let’s take the housing bubble as an example. Housing prices rose far faster than income. As a result, underwriting standards deteriorated. If regulators had forced mortgage originators to tighten up their standards or had forced the originators and securities issuers to keep “skin in the game”, I think the housing bubble might not have been so big.

I think that this crisis has demonstrated that the cost of waiting to clean up asset bubbles after they burst can be very high. That suggests we should explore how to respond earlier.

The basic proposition here — namely that letting bubbles run their course might not be such a great idea after all — is no longer especially controversial.  But Dudley's second and third points are the important ones here.  Even now, many economists still argue that hiking interest rates and producing a recession is too high a price to pay every time someone thinks an asset bubble is forming.  But if that's the case, it means that the Fed needs to be more aggressive about applying more targeted tools to prick bubbles, or, if their tools are inadequate, asking Congress to give it better ones.

Johnson is skeptical that Dudley is really serious about this.  If he is, the next step is to put some meat on the bones of this speech: specify how asset bubbles should be identified and what kinds of tools are needed to fight them.  Stay tuned.

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Comments

Because the fed has timely

Because the fed has timely access to information and supposedly some broad concept of the macroeconomic situation they presumably can wield a significant amount of control through their statements (I guess this power largely lies in telegraphing interest rate moves. . .)

At least Greenspan has a record of talking about irrational exuberance during Democratic administrations and talking up sub-prime mortgages and social security privatization during Republican administrations.

What I don't get is that

What I don't get is that both the tech bubble and the housing bubble were likely the results of very loose monetary policy carried out by the Fed in response to the bursting of a previous assets bubble. Therefore, you have a vicious cycle of bubble, bubble bursting, Fed response, new bubble.

So if you're not going to adjust monetary policy to solve a problem caused by that policy, you're doing nothing meaningful. Any attempt to stop a bubble by micro-managing the finance industry sounds like a fool's errand to me. Doesn't appear that the Fed has progressed much since Greenspan.

Could have predicted IF

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The core problem of all current analysis, is that current analysis only takes into account macro (metro area and higher) data, and no Census Block Group or Zip Code information. This is partly because this info in not free, and partly because the current data providers (MLS and title) have there own self-interest at heart. As someone who has built many AMV's (present value appraisals) and spent years in deep analysis, I can say that bubbles are extremely easy to forecast. Core questions are: what information was missing in the current bubble forecasts. Once you see and accumulate block info, the answers are a lot cleared. Going to launch www.homevaluepredictor.com in a month or so, to make the above clearer too....

Not a phenomemon but a fraud.

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Read " The Best Way to Rob a Bank Is to Own One: How Corporate Executives and Politicians Looted the S&L Industry" by William K. Black and you will learn from a regulator whose job it was to clean up after the S&L failures the true nature of the current depression and the con artists that gained from your losses. His recent interview on Bill Moyer's Journal which can be viewed online should stop this mindless abstract speculation.

What bones?

I don't really see what needs to be added to this. Dudley's saying that rather than the Greenspan philosophy (if monetary policy is contraindicated, then the Fed can do nothing), the Fed should by default assume that it needs to fix asset bubbles, and find solutions to each one as they come up. There's no need to specify how asset bubbles should be identified; Dudley's point is that we have been identifying them all along (which rings true to me; I knew there was a housing bubble years ago just from blogs), we've just not been doing anything about them. And as to what kind of tools we will need, well, we can't know. The next bubble will be in some other field, and will require different tools than the housing bubble, just as the housing bubble needed different tools than the tech stock bubble before it. All the Fed really needs to do is, well, care.

Kevin Drum

I know you're too modest, but you called housing a bubble -- a dangerous one -- way back at CalPundit.

Shouldn't this be under the

Shouldn't this be under the "Michael Jackson" heading?.

Hee Hee Hee

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