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Phone Books

| Wed Aug. 26, 2009 1:09 PM PDT

Claire Thompson asks:

When was the last time you looked up something in the phone book? What did you do the last time you got a free phone book dropped off on your doorstep—did you recycle it? If you’re like most people these days, your answers to those questions are probably “I don’t remember” and “No.”

Well, in my case the answer is "last year" and "yes" — the latter because we all have recycling bins in my neighborhood, so pretty much everything gets recycled with no effort on my part.

But I certainly don't use phone books much.  In fact, even that time last year wasn't for my own benefit.  It was for my Korean neighbor, who knocked on our door late one night and told us he'd locked himself out of his house and could he please use our phonebook to find a locksmith?  So I called a few locksmiths for him.  (And, along the way, learned that most "24-hour locksmiths" are anything but.)

The really mysterious part of all this, though, is that despite the fact that phone books seem like they ought to be a dying breed, there are more of them than ever.  I just looked, and we have not one, not two, not three, but four different yellow pages directories.  One from Verizon, one from Yellowbook, and two from AT&T (they come in two different sizes for some reason).  They're all crammed with ads, which must mean people are using them, but I do sort of wonder who that is sometimes.  I use the web almost exclusively for this kind of thing these days, and I imagine that most people in my upscale neighborhood do too.  So why all the phone books?

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To look..

...up the ISP's service number to call when your internet is down. Had to do it last week for Time Warner, and it was the first time I used a paper phone book since probably March, when by candlelight I had to look up Central Maine Power's outage-reporting number.

They may be an anachronism, but like my land-line phone and its one old Western Electric handset, they have their moments.

I'll take a shot ...

I have wondered the same thing, but most local small businesses don't have websites, and finding information about them online, even their phone number, can be a pain. Ask yourself why you didn't Google up a local locksmith. Probably because it was easier to find one in the phone book!

Hey Andy "effing" Rooney: My

Hey Andy "effing" Rooney:

My guess is that the cost of said phone books may be cleverly diguised in your bill.

I recently discovered that I was stupidly paying Comcast $3 a month for a TV guide that I never asked for, for a year, because I didn't go online and tell them that their onscreen TV guide was plenty.

Next Andy Rooney topic: When did cell phone and cable companies first start using herion dealer pricing models?

Or did you do that one already?

GMAN

Yellow Pages still have value

I still like to use the Yellow Pages when I'm looking for a business - say a plumbing service or something. The Yellow Pages provide a simple, easy-to-peruse survey of the companies in the area, and the ads can be a quick source of useful information.

I think on-line "yellow pages" listings are still somewhat unsatisfactory and don't provide as useful a "feel" for the companies around town.

mine go straight to

mine go straight to recycling. they're a total waste. i'd be perfectly happy to receive one set every two years instead of the three different sets we receive every year, now.

we keep one around "just in case'. last time we used it was to get the number of a local take-out place of which we didn't have a menu. but now we have their menu, and i could've just as easily driver there and waited.

In my experience,

In my experience, immigrants, especially central american immigrants, tend to prefer phone books over the internet. However, I suspect that would hold true for any groups that are relatively economically distressed.

The only reason I ever touch

The only reason I ever touch a phone book is when looking for a service provider: electrician, plumber, HVAC, etc.... Yes, those numbers are mostly online as well, but their full advertisements usually aren't and those can provide helpful information. Especially for small companies that don't have a website but do put down some coin for a yellow pages listing.

I use them...

I use my phonebooks about once a month. I put them on a chair and then stand on them when I can't reach something on the top shelf, or to fix my curtains. But for finding info, kind of useless. I'd rather search on Yelp so I can see what other people's experiences have been.

For the same reason...

tagged as: 

They keep doing it for the same reason most companies keep doing something: it's profitable. The San Fransisco Gate had a good article on this (link below): phone books bring in about $17 billion a year in advertising revenue. Think about it: the "yellow pages" is iconic, the phone companies have all sorts of charts showing the benefits, and what store is going to turn down advertising in them, even if it costs them some money?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/08/08/financial/f0...

phone books

Ammon Shea is the author of “Reading the O.E.D.: One Man, One Year, 21,730 Pages.” He is currently writing a book about telephone books.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/16/magazine/16FOB-onlanguage-t.html?_r=2

telephone books

Ammon Shea is the author of “Reading the O.E.D.: One Man, One Year, 21,730 Pages.” He is currently writing a book about telephone books.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/16/magazine/16FOB-onlanguage-t.html?_r=2

Once upon a time

"Directory Publishing" was once a key part of the business model for local (RBOC) phone companies and the revenue generated from phone books was part of the equation when regulators calculated profit margins and subsidy rates to keep the cost of local residential phone service low.

This cross-subsidization violated free-market doctrines, so when "deregulation" came (or the version of deregulation that telco lobbyists promoted) the directory businesses were spun off to generate paper profits and boosted telco stock prices, for a while at least.

Phone companies have zero interest in providing competitive local phone service in each other's areas, but the directory business is lucrative and low-cost enough that the directory companies happily flood our doorsteps with bulky books that mostly go straight to recycling. Pity the poor small biz that bought the ads that paid for the books.

Phone books won't die

Paul Collins looked into this for Slate last spring. The gist: there's not much hope of them going away soon.

phone books

I actually use them a lot, but not to look things in them. They're great for wiping etching plates in the last wiping stage, when the plate has to be really clean on the surface. There's something about the paper being thin and yet reasonably sturdy that makes them quite good for this. So, I'm recycling only about half of them, since one book is enough for a couple of years.

They have to

It's actually _required by law_ to provide physical phonebooks in many states to every landline customers. There's initiatives to try and stop this, such as http://www.banthephonebook.org/

I personally never use them, but I used to work for WhitePages.com, so I'm well aware of the online directory assistance space.

Phone books

I was able to stop the delivery of all yellow pages by opting out of the delivery. Most of the publishing companies will allow you to do that and it saves the instant recycle when they are delivered.

They fit perfectly in my

They fit perfectly in my telephone table on the bottom shelf below the rotary phone.

Sometimes you need a phone book. Sometimes you need a rotary phone.

I Still Use The Yellow Pages. A Lot.

I live in a fairly small metropolitan area (about 100,000), and on-line searches are a pain, especially for specialized services and or for food, such as pizza, ice cream, butchers, or restaurants. The Yellow Pages provides a pretty thorough listing of all that is available for me in any given category, and with the small ads, they also provide a clear description of what the services include, making it easier to choose. Craig's list, for example, has very hit or miss offerings in my town, making the Yellow Pages much more fruitful. (In fact, my experience with Craig's List in my area has been so awful that I can't fathom why everyone is so hyped up about it, but I'm willing to concede that in large cities it might work better than it does for me in my town.)

I also travel a fair bit, and still find the Yellow Pages to be more useful than any online search. I remember a recent business trip to a small-ish town in the deep south and trying to find restaurants using Google and Yahoo. I was getting a very small list from from both. From my hotel room I could SEE more restaurants than what they were reporting to me. Also, the user reviews were too few and too terse to be of any use. Yahoo and Google did a great job reporting all the national chain restaurants, but I wanted something locally owned and operated, with a little local flavor. Neither Google, nor Yahoo, nor even Chowhound (which is still very hit or miss for small towns in the middle of nowhere) are as useful as the Yellow Pages are for searching out interesting local restaurants.

By the same token, if I want to find a local bookstore or a pharmacy while on the road, Yahoo and Google will invariably miss some, or will list one that is out of business. The Yellow Pages are much more accurate.

Finally, the Yellow Pages is far quicker for me to use. I don't have to fire up a computer, then a browser, type in a search term, wait for the results, and then page through search results. Often the search result will list businesses for towns completely outside of my region, listing business results for Niles, IL, when I want results for Niles, MI (and yes, I DO type in the state as part of the name.)

Recently I needed a locksmith. The online search found me only three in my town. The Yellow Pages listed 12. On-line yellow page searches are so spotty and sporadic that I rarely even bother trying to use the internet for goods and services in my town.

I use the phone book a lot.

I use the phone book a lot. And I don't understand why many folks prefer their computer. After all, UNLESS your computer is already booted and running, it is almost always faster to find something in the printed book. And even when my computer is already up, well, broadband isn't always as fast as advertised. It is STILL faster, sometimes, to use the book.

But the biggest reason I have for using the phone book is that frequently you can find things there you can't online. For some reason, the online yellow page listings just don't work as well for me as the printed pages in the Dex Phone Book (Dex being the "authorized" book issued by Qwest here in the Pacific Northwest).

Having said that, I marvel that even one phone book survives. We get the Dex book, and also Verizon, Yellow Book, and a couple of others to boot. Virtually all except the Dex go straight into recycling. I am astounded that there is enough advertising around to support even the one, much less several.

And that brings me to a bit of irony: although I personally like using the phone book, my partner and I do NOT advertise our business (tax prep) in the yellow pages. To do so would impose a terrific cost on us that we can ill-afford. We always marvel at how much Dex and the others want to charge for even a tiny ad in the yellow pages.

Some advertisers use specific phone numbers that ONLY appear in the yellow pages, so they can more accurately gauge effectiveness. When we've been privy to those figures, we've clearly seen that they did not get enough inquiries to possibly pay for the ads. Consequently, when we get new business clients who are in distress, we frequently recommend that they drop or significantly cut back on their yellow page ads (and then, if they haven't already, have a simple website built). In every case where a client took our advice, they reported later that the drop-off in business was less than the savings on the ads (and the effectiveness of their webpages using more than made up the difference). We don't think this is universally true, but it IS true for many small businesses.

love the phone books

I use the phone book a lot -- find things faster and have a better selection to choose from than trying to find something online. Keep them coming!!

Telephone books can be useful

Telephone books can be useful to take with you, when you won't have Internet access away from home.

phonebook neighbor

why did you mention your neighbor is korean?

The limits of 411

Our hospital library has started to receive frequent calls for the public library about a mile and a half away down a major artery street. Usually to use the public computers. [We offer them the use of ours if more convenient.]

When we ask how the person called us, it always turns out they called or googled 411. The public library's address is listed under the crossing street [there is also a short service road confusing things]. The hospital library has the only address on the major highway.

If the paper copy was used, the cross indexing to either "Public Libraries" or the White Pages public library system listing would have given the correct answer.

People have become lazy and expect single word or "natural language" phrase searching to lead them to an answer every time. Well, it does not happen beyond the most simple minded questions. Remember - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo."

Just Curious

What was the significance of the adjective "Korean" attached to neighbor?

I own a small business, and

I own a small business, and I've decided not to advertise in any of the various Yellow Pages for my area any more. For one thing, at $400 A MONTH for just a small color ad (about 1.5 inches in a single column) I think it's ridiculously expensive. Second, there are two competing yellow page directories, plus scores of other smaller yellow page directories, plus all sorts of neighborhood listing books. My business just can't support the fees for all of these listings. The proliferation of all these directories, plus their cost, is making them obsolete from a business owner's perspective. Third, most everybody in my area is online, and we're doing all sorts of online advertising instead (google adwords, etc.). Fourth, I only expect to draw people from my immediate area (it's a fitness center, and people are not going to travel very far to come here), which means my advertising dollars are better spent on ads in local newspapers. Yeah, I've given this some thought...

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