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The shiny new toy du jour for the conservative movement is the Great NEA Conference Call Scandal. Unless I'm missing something, here's what happened: a White House flack and an NEA flack arranged a conference call with a bunch of
artists and encouraged them to create artwork in support of the president's National Day of Service. That's, um, about it. But conservatives are going absolutely ape over it. Freddie can't take it anymore:
Yes, that’s it. That’s that horrible piece of unAmerican propaganda currently poisoning our government and causing Lady Liberty to weep bitter tears....What’s there is precisely the kind of vague, empty bureaucrat speak that suffuses not only every branch of government, regardless of the party of the sitting president, but also every corporate conference call promoting “synergy” and collective effort for collective goals.
....As SEK from the Edge of the American West blog says, the actual ends that this call is trying to achieve are an increase in community service, such as seeing more young people at blood drives. This is the alleyway the drunken husk of conservatism has crawled into, opposing service to one’s country and community as tantamount to socialism.
Now, that’s what matters — the fact that what was said was absurdly trivial, and that the conservatives screaming and carrying on like they’ve found a dead body in Joe Biden’s trunk are actually completely wrong about what they think the call is about. But, yes, the hypocrisy rankles. It does indeed bother me that the ideology responsible for having people sign written pledges declaring their support for President Bush before they see our elected officials speak now complains about this. It does indeed piss me off that a few short years ago, Republicans were routinely doing things like calling for Howard Dean’s hanging for criticizing the war in Iraq, and yet now they stand enraged over this meaningless conference call.
You know, we saw the same thing happen after conservatives helped expose the forged memos that Dan Rather touted on 60 Minutes. For about two years after that, conservative bloggers saw forgeries everywhere. Forged photos. Forged documents. Forged pieces of paper from senators' pockets. They were so intent on recreating their most glorious moment that everything they saw became another potential Rathergate.
This has the same feel. The ACORN sting was a brilliant piece of political theater. Not exactly critical to the freedom of the Republic or anything, but certainly something that very entertainingly did some real damage to a liberal group that had been in conservative gunsights for years. But since nobody really cares all that much about ACORN, the beast needs to be fed again. And again. And so they come up with stuff like this: a transcript of a phone call that, at most, suggests a minuscule bit of bad judgment from a couple of low-level flacks.
But there's good news here for liberals: if this is the direction Breitbart and Glenn Beck and the rest of the crew are going, they'll soon be taken about as seriously as Abbie Hoffman and the Yippies. The first stunt is kind of cool. The second one, not so much. The third one is a yawn. There's just no there there. Unless there's another shoe to drop on the NEA call, this is a nothingburger.
But this won't be the end of it. The old admonition to always leave 'em wanting more is good advice for any kind of theater, including political theater, but I don't think the wingers get that. They should have quit while they were ahead.
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Did you see this: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ACORN_HIDDEN_CAMERA?SITE=FLSTU...
Apparently the Acorn worker who talked to the hoaxers then turned around and reported them to the police, for investigation into human trafficking.
The CBS Bush memos`
were SO not proven to have been forged. Good grief, Kevin. Didn't you follow this at all beyond the right-wing blogs?
IIRC, Kevin was one of the
IIRC, Kevin was one of the first liberal bloggers to agree that the memos had been forged....
But isn't the current state that the memos as produced on the web are fake, but the story behind them, Bush AWOL, has never been disproven?
Scooter
> IIRC, Kevin was one of the first liberal bloggers to agree that
> the memos had been forged....
IIRC Kevin also thinks that prosecuting Irving Libby (gangland name "Scooter") was a waste of time and effort, and that Karl Rove agreed to appear before the grand jury 4 times out of the depths of his patriotism and love of the abstract concept of justice.
Cranky
I doubt Rather will get his day in court, but...
I am reasonably certain that the Roberts Court will step in at some point and stop Dan Rather from getting his day in court, but if Rather does we will see about those "forgeries". Remember that 12 years after the "what is the frequency Kenneth" assault Rather was proven to have been absolutely accurate in his description of the event.
Cranky
"Unless there's another shoe to drop on the NEA call, this is a nothingburger."
Of course not. If this had happened under the Bush administration, with a White House lackey enlisting the NEA to produce, say, "art" that supports anti-abortion stances, or other White House ventures, you would be going apeshit.
Where is the political mandate for the NEA? They shouldn't be involved with this at all. Period.
If they want to, then strip their federal funding and let the DNC fund them. Because that's what they are right now - a partisan tool.
Oh Puh-leeeze
If this had happened under the Bush administration, with a ...
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........
Amen to that. These Mother
Amen to that. These Mother Jones moonbats are hilarious.
The government should serve
The government should serve the people. That's what we pay them their bloated salaries for. The notion that the people should serve the government, and the great ruler Barack Obama in particular, smacks of communism, where the people are subservient to the state.
Dumbass
The government *is* the people you moron: "of the people, by the people, and for the people."
And, we have very specific
And, we have very specific laws about how our elected government is supposed to operate, and the White House and the NEA violated those rules. If the White House had appointed a conservative NEA lackey as a representative and then conspired to entice the arts community to use federal dollars to create propaganda in support of the war, you would be screaming bloody murder and the lawsuits would be flying.
Very Specific Laws
As a very wise man/woman once said: "Present them"
Interesting that you equate war with a national day of service.
Apparently our President has
Apparently our President has forgotten this.
Oh, and I like the civility in your message, it is sooo refreshing compared to the "right-wing" "extremists" at these town halls. It is so nice to see a leftie contribute to the civility that is apparently only sought under Democratic administrations.
Examples Please?
Please describe exactly what our President has forgotten, with specific examples.
And thanks for your affirmation of my vulgarity, shithead.
Think of the children.
Meanwhile, TX is trying to cajole the nation's text book publishers to teach our children that Newty was a founding father and the civil rights and environmental struggles were communist plots (much like the public education option).
volunteerism
The government should serve the people. That's what we pay them their bloated salaries for. The notion that the people should serve the government, and the great ruler Barack Obama in particular, smacks of communism, where the people are subservient to the state.
Oh, dear: and I always loved John Kennedy's "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country." Shoulda known it was a commie plot.
i was going to say something
i was going to say something about abbie hoffman - still will - but wanted to compliment luther for such a brilliantly stupid comment. it takes real skill to make 'em that dumb.
as for abbie hoffman, listen, kevin you youngster: abbie hoffman was about 100 times cleverer than any republican bozo today. he didn't have a tabloid culture, he didn't have the internet, he didn't have cable news, and yet everyone heard of him and the yippies' hijinks (like throwing dollars down on the trading floor at wall street).
It's how we respond that matters
The problem isn't that the complaint is made, it's how Dems respond. What we should say is "Yes, we did that. We thought it was the right thing to do then and we still do. Now fuck off."
Instead, more often than not, it's "Ooh, you have have a point there, we did a boo-boo." or "We meant to do something else and it just came out wrong." or "I can see where you might have been offended by that, we'll go back and change it/fire that person/cry"
Give the repugs credit--they don't back down, ever.
Come on, Kevin, did you even
Come on, Kevin, did you even read the transcripts? The issues being disussed were not just the "national day of service". Anyone that could write that has either not read the transcripts of the call or is a liar.
What would you have thought if the Bush Administration NEA had hosted a conference call to engage "artists" to support issues from their campaign, such as SS reform or the war in Iraq? I know for a fact that you wouldn't call it a nothingburger.
At least the White House realizes that what it was doing was wrong, and is pulling the plug on this effort, or at least pretending to.
Featured at TheWeek.com
This article was featured at TheWeek.com as Best Opinion - awesome take on the NEA situation.
I suggest you listen to and
I suggest you listen to and read the transcript of the entire phone call, as you are seriously misrepresenting what was said and who said what. Oh, and it was one of those artists in on the phone call who broke this story because he KNEW that what was going on was wrong.
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/pcourrielche/2009/09/21/full-nea-confe...
It is a typical liberal
It is a typical liberal response to downplay wrong doing by another liberal person. It was no big deal? Give me a break. They broke the law. The person who disclosed this knew it while it was being recorded. These actions should be prosecuted. Will not be suprised if they are not though.
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