Income Tax Greatest Hits
Via Jonah Goldberg, AEI's Mark Perry reaches deep into his bag of greatest hits and hauls out the chart on the right:
As the chart below shows (data here), the top 1 percent of taxpayers paid 40.42 percent of all income taxes collected in 2007 ($451 billion), the highest share in modern history for that group....One could even argue that the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 were actually huge “tax cuts for the poor and middle class” because they helped to increase the number of “non-payers” by more than 14 million Americans between 2000 and 2007. Secondly, the tax burden on “the rich” — the top 1 percent of taxpayers — reached a record high in 2007 of more than 40 percent, and was higher after the Bush tax cuts than before.
It's true that the share of income tax paid by the rich went up between 1980 and today. But that's because the share of income earned by the rich went up during that period. In fact, it more than doubled. And since income taxes are a percentage of income, you'd pretty much expect that if your share of income more than doubled, then your share of income tax would also more than double.
But for the top 1% it didn't. It just doubled. In other words, it went up a little bit more slowly than their actual increase in income. Why? Because tax rates on the rich have decreased steadily under Republican presidents since 1980.
Griping about taxes is every American's birthright. But if your share of the income pie increases by 135% over thirty years while everyone else stagnates, you're a pretty lucky ducky. Surely the least you can do is not complain that your share of the tax bill went up by only 100%?
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What happens if you lop in SS and Medicare taxes?
Since for they basically are part of the federal income flow I wonder how the the chart would change if they are included.
Someone should chart what
Someone should chart what happened to Bill Gates' income taxes between 1956 and 2006. If the government did it to him, they could do it to you. And most folks would be bankrupted 1000 times over. The Big Commie Dem'crat Guv'ment is not your friend.
"If the government did it to him they could do it to you"
If you invent the next global emergent technology and start a multi-billion dollar international conglomerate, you could be the next victim. Based on this .000000001% chance, you'd better make decisions that work against your actual situation. Otherwise, you're a soulless non-dreamer and deserve to be shipped to a third-world dictatorship.
Gates invented NOTHING!
The GUI was invented by Xerox, developed by Jobs (with permission), and stolen by Microsoft.
Their market dominance was obtained by similar shady marketing practices and coercion of computer manufacturers to bundle bloated crapware into their products.
Pardon me, but Bill Gates was
Pardon me, but Bill Gates was ONE YEAR OLD in 1956!
I don't see him writing bad checks, only bad software, to cover his debts.
I likely will to cover my "payroll taxes" because your wonderful "market" has decided I'm an independent, NOT an employee. In your glorious market Nirvana, most of us are responsible to pay for everything with next to nothing in wages.
You want freedom? Try driving around any mall parking lot this time of year, or hanging out in the line before the store opens, you'll see what selfish idiots humans can be without regulation.
But then you, B, would likely club your way to the front of the line like any good caveman.
many of the people who were in the top 1% in 1980 are probably not the same people as today's top 1%. 40 years is more than half a lifetime, after all.
today, there's a whole new generation of lucky duckies who never experienced the old tax rates. they only know today's tax rates. and, like everybody, they wish their taxes were lower.
INCOME taxes versus TAXES on income
I make $100,000 and pay $20,000 in income taxes. I also pay 6.2% in Social Security and 1.45% for Medicare. I also pay state income tax and state sales tax.
I make $200,000, of which $50,000 is dividends and capital gains. I would only pay about $35,000 in income taxes. I would only pay about 3.3% of my income in social security and I would only by 1.09% of my income for Medicare.
The numbers are more significant for the really rich.
My point is that the other taxes we all pay, property taxes, social security taxes, medicare, state income taxes, state sales taxes and most other taxes are either very flat or outright regressive.
Looking at income taxes vs the taxes that we pay from our income lead to very different charts and very different conclusions
You are far too kind. These
You are far too kind. These people are lying jerks, period.
Common tactic.
This is the way anti-tax forces always phrase the argument: share of income taxes paid, disconnected from share of income. For a long time, the same misdirection was prominently displayed on Limbaugh's home page (I haven't looked in a long, long time though).
Then there's the offensive but unspoken assumption at the root of this presentation, as well: that the top 1% of taxpayers should pay something like 1% of taxes, same as the lowest 1%. I guess they think that would be fair.
Some of Kevin's numbers come
Some of Kevin's numbers come from Piketty and Saez, whose claims are strenuously disputed, if not actually debunked.
IOW, he presents a highly tendentious and contentious source as settled fact. That is how such people operate.
This is just stupid. Why
This is just stupid. Why bother replying to them at all. A sneer would be more appropriate.
Sick yet?
Anyone else sick and tired of pointing out that there are many taxes other than the income tax? Like the Social Security tax? Or that most Americans pay more in Social Security tax than in income tax? Or that other taxes - sales tax, gas tax, property tax - tend to hurt the poor disproportionately?
Geez, the stupid wears me down.
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