Protesters in Berkeley: Up a Tree and Fenced In

Has Berkley turned into a Jock school? I guess it must have when I read the comments above. I would have figured that the priority of the school ought not be the revenues the "State" funded school can get from football nerds?because let's face it in a place of higher education it is in fact jocks that are on average nerds?"Da, I wanna play in da, da, football game Coach".

Perhaps the "cash strapped University" is where one ought to look. Are sports the answer to higher education? I wonder how much money Cambridge or Oxford get for the rowing team, or say the cricket team?did anyone ever go from Cambridge to play for Manchester United or say Liverpool? I guess we ought to ask Stephen Hawkings whether he got a "sports scholarship" to study astrophysics at Cambridge? A serious time for reevaluation in the US seems to be in order! We've seen what "marketing" our kids education in the grammar school has done?it has given Americans just about the worst lower educational system in the industrialized world. Capitalist education has replaced education pure and simple and what we get are a bunch of retarded jocks who play ball and beyond that?there hooked on junk food? Well they make for interesting mystery deaths in corrupt wars created by "C" students or even jock brained 'planners' that want to build their football stadiums on fault zones?I thought it was only the atomic power plant lobby that chose such ingenious sites or perhaps its the kickback potentials?insurance windfalls in case disaster strikes or perhaps its based on the percentage of luck, that the stadium is like our stars and stripes of glory and at the dawns early light the flag was still there?i.e the stadium withstands some earthquakes unscathed. I mean football is great but it's not the object of school.

It is too bad that the great pragmatic thinker and educator, John Dewey, has fallen from grace, though I believe he did have a marked impact on Noam Chomsky?did he get a sports scholarship to create transformational grammar or was it Dewey's understanding of democracy and education?in the sense that, "A separation into a privileged and a subject-class prevents social endosmosis. The evils thereby affecting the superior class are less material and less perceptible, but equally real. Their culture tends to be sterile, to be turned back to feed on itself; their art becomes a showy display and artificial; their wealth luxurious; their knowledge overspecialized; their manners fastidious rather than humane?" When the "process" of the system of education is to maximize profits, it is the object of profit maximization that gets the weight and meat in terms of the "education business"?not education!

I guess kicking crap on cops has changed Brian K, lavender wands? Wow like brutal man?have you ever put a flower in the end of a National Guardsman's rifle barrel and not been shot or ass-whipped or even arrested? It happened, 'Once upon time in a America' . . .way back in the Dionysian sixties.. when youth were not kowtowed to authority? Today we suck the weeny of torture, of the entire destruction of the bill of rights, of wide spread poverty, of dumping the sick who cannot pay on the street to die, of baron taxes on our homes, of war without any grounds whatsoever?to disagree is to be unpatriotic while patriotic means to agree to having no rights whatsoever?unless you are wealthy enough to purchase them....etc, etc, etc. ... What is needed is some real demonstrations?the kind that forces the hand of the pigs that oppress! When they resort to killing demonstrators it is then they'll loose and the reality of what police are supposed to do will fall into focus?cops are supposed to protect the constitutional right of free assembly! When they do that they are called "Peace Officers" and "Protectors of the law". Such police officers serve the concept of national security because they protect your right to be a citizen?as opposed to stealing from you your rights as citizens. Until such time they are pigs and a lavender wand is indeed a very dangerous "weapon".

Just blowing off some steam

there are no UC Berkeley students on the trees. Just dirty filthy old hippies there.

This post is light on facts.

No one is stopping them from giving the protesters food and water. Why they did stop a delivery during the protest just after the fence was erected, they have since allowed food and water to be delivered.

The new center will not "rest squarely where the old stadium does," or there would be no need to remove the trees. The new center will rest just west of the stadium where the grove is.

Both of the seismic reports from the USGS has concluded that the new center does not rest on the Hayward fault. That should be obvious to anyone who has been to Memorial Stadium because it is very clear to see that the fault runs directly through the existing stadium, to the east of the proposed center.

And to add to what a previous commenter said, they will be planting three trees for everyone removed, in addition to transplanting one large tree for every tree removed.

Visit the main library on campus sometime and look at the pictures of the area back in 1868, when the University was established. You might be surprised by the lack of trees. In fact, the trees in question didn't even exist when Memorial Stadium was built. There are also a bunch of fantastic photos in Minor hall that show the stadium upon it's completion. The trees are all very small in those photos.

Has Berkley turned into a Jock school? I guess it must have when I read the comments above. I would have figured that the priority of the school ought not be the revenues the "State" funded school can get from football nerds—because let's face it in a place of higher education it is in fact jocks that are on average nerds—"Da, I wanna play in da, da, football game Coach".

Perhaps the "cash strapped University" is where one ought to look. Are sports the answer to higher education? I wonder how much money Cambridge or Oxford get for the rowing team, or say the cricket team—did anyone ever go from Cambridge to play for Manchester United or say Liverpool? I guess we ought to ask Stephen Hawkings whether he got a "sports scholarship" to study astrophysics at Cambridge? A serious time for reevaluation in the US seems to be in order! We've seen what "marketing" our kids education in the grammar school has done—it has given Americans just about the worst lower educational system in the industrialized world. Capitalist education has replaced education pure and simple and what we get are a bunch of retarded jocks who play ball and beyond that—there hooked on junk food? Well they make for interesting mystery deaths in corrupt wars created by "C" students or even jock brained 'planners' that want to build their football stadiums on fault zones—I thought it was only the atomic power plant lobby that chose such ingenious sites or perhaps its the kickback potentials—insurance windfalls in case disaster strikes or perhaps its based on the percentage of luck, that the stadium is like our stars and stripes of glory and at the dawns early light the flag was still there—i.e the stadium withstands some earthquakes unscathed. I mean football is great but it's not the object of school.

It is too bad that the great pragmatic thinker and educator, John Dewey, has fallen from grace, though I believe he did have a marked impact on Noam Chomsky—did he get a sports scholarship to create transformational grammar or was it Dewey's understanding of democracy and education—in the sense that, "A separation into a privileged and a subject-class prevents social endosmosis. The evils thereby affecting the superior class are less material and less perceptible, but equally real. Their culture tends to be sterile, to be turned back to feed on itself; their art becomes a showy display and artificial; their wealth luxurious; their knowledge overspecialized; their manners fastidious rather than humane?" When the "process" of the system of education is to maximize profits, it is the object of profit maximization that gets the weight and meat in terms of the "education business"—not education!

I guess kicking crap on cops has changed Brian K, lavender wands? Wow like brutal man—have you ever put a flower in the end of a National Guardsman's rifle barrel and not been shot or ass-whipped or even arrested? It happened, 'Once upon time in a America' . . .way back in the Dionysian sixties.. when youth were not kowtowed to authority? Today we suck the weeny of torture, of the entire destruction of the bill of rights, of wide spread poverty, of dumping the sick who cannot pay on the street to die, of baron taxes on our homes, of war without any grounds whatsoever—to disagree is to be unpatriotic while patriotic means to agree to having no rights whatsoever—unless you are wealthy enough to purchase them....etc, etc, etc. ... What is needed is some real demonstrations—the kind that forces the hand of the pigs that oppress! When they resort to killing demonstrators it is then they'll loose and the reality of what police are supposed to do will fall into focus—cops are supposed to protect the constitutional right of free assembly! When they do that they are called "Peace Officers" and "Protectors of the law". Such police officers serve the concept of national security because they protect your right to be a citizen—as opposed to stealing from you your rights as citizens. Until such time they are pigs and a lavender wand is indeed a very dangerous "weapon".

Just blowing off some steam

Errata: "trees" for "tress"

Sorry. :-)

kirilovslogic,

Were you sober when you wrote your comment above? I did not say anything about kowtowing to cops. Ive been arrested for protesting, twice. Civil Dis is a great thing. But do it smart. DO NOT TOUCH COPS. EVER! Particularly not when you are in a crowd scene. You will either get arrested or if the situation is tense enough you will get mistaken for somebody assulting the cop and you will get taken down.

And lowering yourself to calling them pigs is just great. Grow up, wise up and make your protest mean something. Spewing the same 60s rhetoric will only get you eye rolls.
But in any case be my guest and go put your hands on all the cops you want. :-) Find a tense crowd situation and then want up behind a cop and put your hands on him\her or give him\her a big friendly flowerchild hug, just to let them know you are full of love. cops love to get suprise hugs from behind during crowd control situations. Just do me a favor. make sure someone is taping it so they can put your asskicking\arrest on Youtube.

I must say that when I read the words of a wimp like yourself Brian K—a suck up to police authority, who defends the pigs and today that is precisely what the police department is, a gang of empowered pigs thanks to the politics of George Fascist Bush, along with the CIA, the Homeland Security, and of course the NSA. I call them 'pigs' when a gang of rather pathetic minded semi fascistic thugs get their jollies arresting lavender wand toting idealists who value trees more than football stadiums or those pigs who get their jollies eavesdropping on the protest 101 master Brian K. Like Bush said either you are for or against. When it comes to a democratic society "pigs" are police who use violence to enforce the law, and equally pigs are terrorists who use lethal violence to mark out their protest. ... .frankly I fear no one Brian K—I read your garbage insinuations and it makes me think of Humboldt's Gift—Everyone fears some one, some thing, as when hawks fly high the mice do hide, birds fear airplanes and airplanes fear the awk, awk, awk, you belong to the fear some one some thing group Brian K! I myself belong to those heedless lions that sleep soundly beneath the Booloo tree after their lunch of blood—I call that good living.

The argument that the cost of the football stadium will potentially aid the schools ailing economy is not an argument—it is pure speculation. One will be forced to weigh up the long term costs in terms of school policy—where the politics of Berkley will become football first education second—because it is "football" that will argue that it foots the bill. Of course it may well be that football will not foot the bill and the costs of the stadium will not only weaken the school economically, it will leave the school open to the everything is better that is private lobby—a gang of fanatics who desire to see all schools run privately. Thus instead of the tuition of Berkley being 4800 dollars it could be set at 43,000 dollars just as we see at Harvard. I'm sure the Berkley Brand could fetch that kind of value. Of course this seems to imply that private does not mean better, but rather only more expensive—higher education from the conservative point of view is a kind of good that should be kept solely in the hands of the affluent, the "mob" must be held down by keeping them under lock and key—teaching them to cower to the police, just as protest master101 Brian K does and to make sure that the education of affluent is priced so that only the affluent can ever afford it.