Coming Soon to Texas: A Master's Degree in Creation Science
| Thu Dec. 20, 2007 12:18 PM PST
Because Baylor University is not doing enough to plumb the seas for Noah's Ark, an advisory committee of the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board has recommended that the Institute for Creation Research be given the authority to grant Master's degrees in science education. Perhaps the training will help graduates stay employed in the Lone Star State, rather than getting fired like the state's former director of science curricula, a shameless Darwin booster.
Is Texas devolving? Not at all. According to the Institute's mission statement, it will only enroll the self-motivated, responsible student who "is more self-disciplined ('whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatever ye do, do all to the glory of God;' I Cor. 10:31) and takes education seriously ('And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;' Colossians 3:23)."
The Texas Observer reports that the same guys brought us the Creation Museum in Kentucky (see Adam frolic with the dinosaurs!), and are at work stumping for Mike Huckabee in Iowa.
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Marx condemned the sexual freedom advocated by Fourier and Saint-Simon as a relapse into a "bestial" state of "universal prostitution". Engels condemned homosexuality among men of ancient Greece in two separate passages of The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State, describing it as "morally deteriorated", "abominable", "loathsome" and "degrading". Marx apparently shared Engels' views, writing that "the relation of man to woman is the most natural relation of human being to human being" and describing the author of a text promoting sexual freedoms as "that queer prick" ("Schwanzschwulen"). According to the socialist writers Hekma, Oosterhuis and Steakley, Marx and Engels saw any form of sexuality outside of a monogamous heterosexual marriage as a kind of degeneracy fostered by capitalism, which could be cured by socialism. According to Engels, "natural moral principles" would flourish in the socialist future, when (heterosexual) "monogamy, instead of declining, finally becomes a reality ? for the man as well, and homosexuality would simply disappear.
August Bebel's Woman under Socialism (1879), the "single work dealing with sexuality most widely read by rank-and-file members of the SPD," was even more explicit in warning socialists of the dangers of same-sex love. Bebel attributed "this crime against nature" in both men and women to sexual indulgence and excess, describing it as an upper-class, metropolitan and foreign vice.
Marx condemned the sexual freedom advocated by Fourier and Saint-Simon as a relapse into a "bestial" state of "universal prostitution". Engels condemned homosexuality among men of ancient Greece in two separate passages of The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State, describing it as "morally deteriorated", "abominable", "loathsome" and "degrading". Marx apparently shared Engels' views, writing that "the relation of man to woman is the most natural relation of human being to human being" and describing the author of a text promoting sexual freedoms as "that queer prick" ("Schwanzschwulen"). According to the socialist writers Hekma, Oosterhuis and Steakley, Marx and Engels saw any form of sexuality outside of a monogamous heterosexual marriage as a kind of degeneracy fostered by capitalism, which could be cured by socialism. According to Engels, "natural moral principles" would flourish in the socialist future, when (heterosexual) "monogamy, instead of declining, finally becomes a reality ? for the man as well, and homosexuality would simply disappear.
August Bebel's Woman under Socialism (1879), the "single work dealing with sexuality most widely read by rank-and-file members of the SPD," was even more explicit in warning socialists of the dangers of same-sex love. Bebel attributed "this crime against nature" in both men and women to sexual indulgence and excess, describing it as an upper-class, metropolitan and foreign vice.
Submitted by capt (not verified) on Thu Dec. 20, 2007 12:36 PM PST.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
~Voltaire (1694 - 1778)
yes thats right
Submitted by auspuffrohr (not verified) on Thu Jun. 25, 2009 4:03 PM PDT.
i agree with you, an idiot is still an idiot.
I'm "from" Texas. Left for college and never went back. Not a bad place to be "from", but it's a weird place -- and getting weirder from what Mother tells me.
But I really don't care if the "creationists" open a school or not. Actually it's even better that they do since it will assure a reasonable job for those of us who actually know what science is. (Maybe it should b e considered a "Theological Seminary". Makes more sense that a technology institution!)
But then my view of "intelligent design" is that the "designer" was/is the ET aliens [of Roswell fame!] who have been popping in and out of human history for a million years or so. Hey! SOMEBODY had to build the pyramids.
This might not be such a bad thing- it would be nice to have someone fully learned in whatever scientific evidence there is for a creation theory. That doesn't mean students have to believe that Adam rode a T-Rex to work or ate Brontosaurus burgers, but there are certain scientific findings which are nearly or completely unexplainable by current scientific principles that may be better informed through "creation science." After all, the head of the US Genome mapping project found God through the event, because he felt that such precision and complexity was a testament to a higher being.
First-let bush retire to Crawford...
second-cede Texas back to Mexico where it belongs..
third-build a retaining wall between Texas and the rest of the US to employ the unemployed of the US...
fourth-science education improves 1000% in the US, where it is sorely lacking...
fifth-watch the US excel in science and math...
Submitted by LightingJoe (not verified) on Fri Dec. 21, 2007 4:40 PM PST.
So you're a Texan, eh, Beeblebrox? That explains a lot :)
Honestly, why ask why? Idiots happen, either by design or education. These folks have perfectly functional brains, but have taken an oath not to use them to actually think with.
This unswervable kind of faith is the worst thing about our species. Used properly (that is, with appropriate and periodic review), belief makes our lives much easier: we don't have to keep figuring out how to open doors -- we "believe" that turning the knob will do it.
But applied to cosmic-level topics that unfortunately DO affect our lives on Earth, belief of the unshakable variety is a definite disadvantage.
Submitted by LightningJoe (not verified) on Fri Dec. 21, 2007 4:47 PM PST.
Recent survey study found that only thirty percent of HS graduates could be called science "literate." That is, they had to simply explain what a particular concept a certain science buzz-word referred to, as in "Global Warming is the term for a warming of the Earth's average climate due to accumulation of greenhouse gasses."
With that level of activated ignorance in the culture, there's no wonder that ignorance ground-zero (also known as Texas) would do something like this.
Submitted by Suzane Radford (not verified) on Fri Dec. 21, 2007 5:46 PM PST.
Well, I liked the graphic of them linging up 2x2. I wonder if we'll be that calm on our way to the bomb shelters?
There is no science in "creation science." The incredible thing about the human brain is its ability to steer one into believing the absurd, that which has no basis in fact and which will never be subjected to a scientific test. An example? How we got here. How the universe came to be. We don't know and we will never, ever know.
Submitted by capt (not verified) on Fri Dec. 21, 2007 8:06 PM PST.
"With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another."
~ Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)
Ok,Ok...not everyone from Texas is an idot!! Just because the one in D.C. owns a ranch here. Hey it was purely an accident!! Some of us don't claim him!!
I know for a fact that there are strange people with different...nay...should I say odd beliefs from everywhere in this country. Take a look at Washington or Mass. with it's "School of Rock"
Although I believe there is much more to us than this mortal coil, creation science is, as pointed out, most definitely an oxymoron. It is possible that a God created the Universe, but that creation would have happened with the big bang--let there be light!(mostly joking..but there is definitely more to the universe than we know). As far as our children and education, what we need to work on, before anything else, is to instill in them a love of reading, and a love of numbers. Forced regiments have the exact opposite effect. Parents should lead by example. If a child sees their parents reading a lot, it's going to probably cause the children to take an interest in reading. There's something about reading which helps develope the brain like no other activity. A love of reading usually evolves to a love of knowledge. But forcing children to read, without first developing that interest, makes them associate reading with dis-pleasure. I believe this is no accident, but part of an elitest agenda (and I have proof of this)to "dumb down" Americans so they will accept the limited, servant lives they end up leading as adults. For the rich to exist they need a large population of servants (serfs)to do all the real work, while those that know how to manipulate the system sit back and get rich..while being waited upon by their servants.
These people have made GOD into a laughing stock. And in turn they are destroying this country. They want Armageddon.
And they will use the U.S military to start it. And the military is letting that happen.
I cannot understand why the military would kill with out a question?? This is just what happened in Germany under Hitler. This country is past being stupid. Its at the point of no return if people do not wake up.
Submitted by School teacher (not verified) on Sun Dec. 23, 2007 6:57 AM PST.
I wonder how they are going to organize enrolling process. Do the students need to take some motivation tast to be enrolled?
Submitted by ScottGordon (not verified) on Sun Dec. 23, 2007 7:11 PM PST.
Excuse me, but I fail to see any value in ridiculing religious beliefs. It rather tends to distract one from the REAL issues - the loss of our civil liberties after 911 and the destruction of the Constitution. Can we stop picking fights with people who very well could end up our allies? I find the motives of this reporter highly suspect. An excellent way to perpetuate infighting over a real NON-ISSUE amongst the hostages (most of the American people) to a renegade regime at the beck and call of powers who wish only to enslave. Might I suggest that offering academic alternatives to the mind-numbing Darwinist science and pseudo-sciences such as psychiatry and eugenics, so cherished by the Nazis of old, is not a cause for concern amongst real progressives.
Guess what Scotty G - Religion was the cause of 9-11. Religion put the Bush regime into power. Religion was instrumental destroying America from the inside. Religion deserves to be ridiculed if not eradicated.
"History furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes." - Thomas Jefferson
The first verse in the Bible is incorrect. The original translation is In the beginning Gods (Elohim) created the earth. Science is the most accurate study we have. Let the Scientist create the education standards not a group of religious non science people.
Most of the comments left here show much more ignorance on the part of the commenting public than the intended target of the article.
Texas is a very nice place to live. I don't agree with the college or this degree, so I won't take the class. It's that simple. But to make sweeping generalizations about the state based off this shows that the only devolution is on the part of the public at large.
Stop reading blogs and go out and experience the real world to fill your mind. Speak because you have something to say, not because you feel like you have to say something.
Submitted by capt (not verified) on Wed Dec. 26, 2007 11:29 AM PST.
I have friends in Texas - there are good people all over this country. That also does not dismiss the inane degree. The only reason Texas is part of the story is because the story is about the "Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board" - an obvious oxymoron if ever there was.
A degree in "creation" is just a silly notion that strains to portray mythology as science. That is not just a class to pass on it is nonsensical - no matter in which state.
The only state board that should entertain a degree in creation is the state of insanity.
The condemnation of content should be directed at the specific post or it is just a broad-brush stroke - a general non-specific insult - kind of what you are trying to condemn?
Maybe everybody should stop reading blogs and get out more - that is not for me to say but you could be a bit more tolerant if you anticipate tolerance for your point of view too.
"There are people who read too much: the bibliobibuli. I know some who are constantly drunk on books, as other men are drunk on whiskey or religion. They wander through this most diverting and stimulating of worlds in a haze, seeing nothing and hearing nothing." ~ Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956)
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SO WTF, ok this whole creationism revolution needs to be addressed quickly they are about as bad as the scientology brain washing bullshit, now these psychos can get a masters degree in bullshit science? that is spitting in my face along with everyone else in the science community. i am a religious man but this crap needs to stop. the cults are starting to take over and i personally believe that both of these basterdising cults need to be out lawed. enough is enough.
Science have experiment based methods to investigate the reality. Scientific methods heavily rely on the replicabilty of the experiments. Hence a result of a sole experiment is never accepted as a scientific proof - every result needs confirmation from several independent sources, repeated on similar circumstances.
The use of scientific methods on a religious subject is quite ridiculous - nothing could be proved on scientifical terms because any of religious events couldn't be repeated at all. Science and religion are quite different approaches of the reality, and it's not on the religion's advantage he needs scientific tools to prove whatsoever.
In this terms the Big Bang is a theory and nothing else, but there are so many scientifical facts I could repeat myself if I'm in doubts. Anyway, I accept many of them, because they ARE scientific proofs - proved and confirmed so many times. Every brick of the science edifice is so strongly built on his place, it's not quite easy to demolish.
That's why I like science - because I could be on doubt anytime.
It's not a masters in science, it's a masters in SCIENCE EDUCATION. So basically they authorized a school which is going to pump out a steady supply of masters-weilding science teachers for our public schools.
"And on the third day God created rifles so that man could hunt the dinosaurs."
Submitted by over you (not verified) on Wed Dec. 26, 2007 1:01 PM PST.
Creationism is correct. Those that don't see how this is possible are not seeing the entire picture. Kind of like looking at a person's physical body and not acknowledging the ability of a person to think, because they cannot observe thoughts as physical objects. So while this person is attempting to describe the thought process, you go on a tangent and scoff about there is no such thing as thought because you can't see or observe them(yes minus the cat scan) Go here to get a pdf(not a virus) and you will see:
http://thesteelo.com
So, can someone explain what's wrong with this? I mean, there is an inherent flaw in it of believe an answer before asking the question, but if it's taught properly and correct methods and controls are followed this bias can be all but eliminated. I think half the point of studying it is having a believe, and wanting to fill the questions with answers where they can be found.
Besides, Godwin's Law should have been enforced three days ago.
Re: over you
Creationism is not correct. We have the fossils to prove it. This doesn't rule out Intelligent Design or similar theories, in fact as noted above can even support it.
However the theory that the world has a fixed age which is only four digits and that man shared the earth with dinosaurs is simply a fairy tale created to indoctrinate young children before they become educated enough to scoff at such a notion. It's indeed "junk science" and has no place in a real classroom, most especially a public school.
Submitted by capt (not verified) on Wed Dec. 26, 2007 1:42 PM PST.
"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind." ~ Albert Einstein
Submitted by capt (not verified) on Wed Dec. 26, 2007 1:44 PM PST.
"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." ~ Martin Luther King Jr., Strength to Love, 1963
I'm sure 'Creation Science' actually means the study of evolution-for which all available scientific evidence fits nicely. I don't seriously believe that any institution would voluntarily shred their academic credibility by indocrinating with the religious nonsense of the totally unhinged fundementalist members of a crazed cult. The religious nuts sometimes really do scare me.
Ok, that was a bit funny, but I was totally serious. Do you or anyone else here think, that if this trend continues we will have an open theocracy with nutjobs who think the universe is here for them and they can hasten the return of Jesus or whatever if they nuke Jerusalem and some other places for the fun of it?
Submitted by capt (not verified) on Wed Dec. 26, 2007 2:19 PM PST.
"think the universe is here for them"
Too late, the theocracy is here. "Them" being the xenophobic war loving "Christians" . . .
Too true to be funny.
