Ron Paul on the Theory of Evolution: "I Don't Accept It."

Marx condemned the sexual freedom advocated by Fourier and Saint-Simon as a relapse into a "bestial" state of "universal prostitution". Engels condemned homosexuality among men of ancient Greece in two separate passages of The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State, describing it as "morally deteriorated", "abominable", "loathsome" and "degrading". Marx apparently shared Engels' views, writing that "the relation of man to woman is the most natural relation of human being to human being" and describing the author of a text promoting sexual freedoms as "that queer prick" ("Schwanzschwulen"). According to the socialist writers Hekma, Oosterhuis and Steakley, Marx and Engels saw any form of sexuality outside of a monogamous heterosexual marriage as a kind of degeneracy fostered by capitalism, which could be cured by socialism. According to Engels, "natural moral principles" would flourish in the socialist future, when (heterosexual) "monogamy, instead of declining, finally becomes a reality ? for the man as well, and homosexuality would simply disappear.
August Bebel's Woman under Socialism (1879), the "single work dealing with sexuality most widely read by rank-and-file members of the SPD," was even more explicit in warning socialists of the dangers of same-sex love. Bebel attributed "this crime against nature" in both men and women to sexual indulgence and excess, describing it as an upper-class, metropolitan and foreign vice.

Darwinism and evolution aren't the same thing, Doc. Darwinism is a theory about what drives evolution, specifically, that organisms evolve in order to better position them for survival.

Your comment about homosexuals reflects an inaccurate understanding of both biology and evolution.

If Ron Paul shares your view, he is hardly qualified to be the leader of the free world, IMHO. Denying established and accepted science in the name of a religious belief, well, that's what was happening during the Dark Ages a thousand years ago. Has YOUR perception (and Paul's understanding) of the world not evolved since then?

Really now, don't be a hater.

Well, EVOLUTION IS A THEORY. A remarkably well functioning one, but still just a best guess so far. I wish you people were more informed about what science really is and what the scientific methods are.

["Ultimately, it makes little difference whether Paul is a Creationist. As a libertarian he's opposed to any government funding for scientific or religious endeavors."]

Exactly.

When you know the man opposes having government, or anyone IN government impose his own views on anyone else, what does it matter?

As one PaleoLibertarian said:
"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."
--Thomas Jefferson-- 1787

AIDS is very serious. It strikes at Africans and Homosexuals because the CFR through the CIA introduced it to take care of perceived problems.

The New York Times retracted there smear attempt about Paul's white supremist doner. He has the most solid political record that I've seen in thirty years in politics.

"Who still believes there's no media bias in favor of 'the annointed few' candidates from BOTH the big wings of our one ruling party?"

Of course that is true, it is also not the reason Ron Paul cannot break double digits nationally.

"The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments."

~ Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900), The Gay Science, section 191

"He voted against them."

I know, Dennis Kucinich RULES!

"Watch and learn Capt."

Thanks, but what I am suppose to learn?

Kucinich is a kook, he will not win even if he had a huge grassroots org. even if he had mountains of money.

Do yourself a favor, never try to teach what you don't know and understand you can't "back-up" to a place you have never been.

All the money and organization can't make a viable candidate out of a kook.

That applies to all parties and all candidates.

Kucinich has been right on the two issues posted.

"The bottom line for me is the Iraq War and the Patriot Act.

He voted against them."

That was my point. Read and try to comprehend.

And your name calling does nothing to further whatever point you're trying to make. Instead, it gives your commentary a juvenile feel to it. Same goes for any supporter for any candidate. It cheapens the message.

The "watch and learn" had more to do with the New Hampshire debates and volume of the Ron Paul supporters at their own rally scheduled to take plpace simultaneously.

Watch and learn the power of a true grass roots movement, which has broad appeal to many who have grown sick and tired of the intellectual dishonesty of a media which is fully entrenched with the corporations that dominate our government.

That's a clearer picture of "watch and learn".

"watch and learn"?

So you really think Ron Paul will be president?

I think you need to learn that the only way to prove me wrong and yourself right is for Ron Paul to win, I am no soothsayer but I think it is more likely he will not win the GOP nomination nor a general election.

That means I need to learn something?

A lesson in humility is what you need to "watch and learn" just because we disagree doesn't make you any better than me so take your condescension and put it where it will teach you best.

Thanks

"The great thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid."
~ Art Spander

Ron Paul is losing me. I really like the guy as a person, but this kind of thing is just bonkers. Evolution is NOT a theory, it is a FACT. Precisely how it takes place involves many theories, however. It is not a threat to religion so stop taking it that way!

Roppson, you might want to look that one up, evolution is indeed a theory. I do agree that this is a non issue.

Marx condemned the sexual freedom advocated by Fourier and Saint-Simon as a relapse into a "bestial" state of "universal prostitution". Engels condemned homosexuality among men of ancient Greece in two separate passages of The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State, describing it as "morally deteriorated", "abominable", "loathsome" and "degrading". Marx apparently shared Engels' views, writing that "the relation of man to woman is the most natural relation of human being to human being" and describing the author of a text promoting sexual freedoms as "that queer prick" ("Schwanzschwulen"). According to the socialist writers Hekma, Oosterhuis and Steakley, Marx and Engels saw any form of sexuality outside of a monogamous heterosexual marriage as a kind of degeneracy fostered by capitalism, which could be cured by socialism. According to Engels, "natural moral principles" would flourish in the socialist future, when (heterosexual) "monogamy, instead of declining, finally becomes a reality — for the man as well, and homosexuality would simply disappear.
August Bebel's Woman under Socialism (1879), the "single work dealing with sexuality most widely read by rank-and-file members of the SPD," was even more explicit in warning socialists of the dangers of same-sex love. Bebel attributed "this crime against nature" in both men and women to sexual indulgence and excess, describing it as an upper-class, metropolitan and foreign vice.

Someone had edited the video to censor Ron Paul's full statement and try to make him look like a Mike Huckabee. Here's the full, unedited clip:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zz94-OrnXzE

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