Obama at AIPAC

Dear Mother Jones:
So much for change. The All Powerful Jewish-American Lobby yesterday, The All Powerful Jewish- American Lobby today, The All Powerful Jewish ?American Lobby tomorrow and the trillions of Dollars of drainage from the USA and the abandonment of basic moral principles, (Thou shall not steal for instance, ) since 1947 will continue without change. The butchering and gobbling up of Palestine, the appalling central stomach turning central defining ethos of the all powerful Axis of Chutzpah will evidently not change under Obama. If the ideation of a beast of the biblical crazies' lore takes on some type of sulfurous self fore-filling-fruition, the beast must certainly occur as some sort of political standard bearer of our imperious, self-righteous, absolutely poisonousness, terror infusing, religious-geo-political Israeli-American axis.
Best wishes, Dustbin.

We can continue to fight war after war on our own behalf or that of other countries, I guess there's nothing wrong with being a REALLY GOOD FRIEND. However, we need to be extremely mindful that leaders of our country, in very recent history have directly shunned the international community. As a result, our cability to engage in diplomacy has weakened if not evaporated, we are viturally alone in all of this and Americans know it--we know that serious, straightforward diplomacy can work, should be tried, and should ALWAYS be our first option, not our desperate 10th or 11th. And by the way, what's wrong with Americans working toward peaceful strategies?

When you have a candidate saying that we, Americans, will "obliterate" another country--I guess I am to assume the very young, old and all citizens in betweenas well as military personnel, I have serious concerns, as an American! This is the undeniable, unmeasured posture of McCain; the former candidate that made the reference simply echoes this untenable posture--that of the Bush/Cheney brainchild (thankfully McClellen decided to shed more light on that which we already knew). We don't kill children, we don't advocate for it. We are Americans, we don't kill unarmed civilians, we are Americans.

I just don't understand this posture--we need to get it together, as Americans....that's just my 2 cents.

Now folks, you have to understand the power of money. Carter in his book "Palestine Peace Not Apartheid" , pg 209, "...(I)n the United States, Israeli government decisions are rarely questioned, voices from Jerusalem dominate in our media..." In other words, Zionists dominate the US media. "At the same time, political leaders and news media in Europe are highly critical of Israeli policies, affecting public attitudes." "Citizens in 15 European nations, indicate that Israel was considered to be the top threat to world peace."
In Arron David Miller's book, "The Much Too Promised Land", he states that "no ethnic group has the power and focus of the American-Jewish community." "Today you cannot be successful in American politics and not be good on Israel." London review of books, The Israel Lobby , by John Mearsheimer(U of Chicago)and Stephen Walt(Harvard U) (book endorsed by former Carter Security Advisor Brzezinski)"Thanks in part to the influence Jewish voters have on presidential elections, the Lobby also has significant leverage over the executive branch. Although they make up fewer than 3 per cent of the population, they make large campaign donations to candidates from both parties. The Washington Post once estimated that Democratic presidential candidates 'depend on Jewish supporters to supply as much as 60 per cent of the money'. And because Jewish voters have high turn-out rates and are concentrated in key states like California, Florida, Illinois, New York and Pennsylvania, presidential candidates go to great lengths not to antagonize them."
See the boasting by the Jews in Neil Gabler's An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood and Hoberman and Shandler's Entertaining America: Jews, Movies, and Broadcasting.

NO shit, Obama just lost my vote! What the hell is going on with these jerks? Aren't they supposed to work and help Americans first? First of all why should we allow Israel robbing our tax money and kill the innocent people in the ME in our name? Enough is enough!! No more help to that shitty country! We need our money back for our homeless and schools here in America, period!

It is a litmus test that every candidate to the US Congress and the presidency have to go through; to prove unwavering loyalty to Israel, loyalty to America is always secondary. Those running for public office in the US can disagree on host of issues; from the war in Iraq to gay marriage, but dare any of them disagrees with Israel (We all know what happened to President Carter when he voiced a mild criticism of Israel). The loyal Israeli dogs in the media are waiting to tear apart the reputation of any candidate or public office holder who does not agree with Israel 100%. Candidates, as Obama just did, have to step on their conscious, lie, distort the truth and praise Israel as a pure democracy. They have to pledge the US treasury to support the illegal Israeli occupation of Arab Lands and its daily violation of international law. They have to be willing to send our soldiers to fight and die for Israel (as in Iraq, and the upcoming attack on Iran). They have to promise to make enemies around the world just to appease Israel. No candidate for public office in the US can afford to offend Israel. Those who do will be mollified by the media. Their political careers will be destroyed and the little mishaps, if any, in their past political lives will be displayed, amplified and distorted day and night in the so-called mainstream media.

American Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) has a sole mission: To spy on America for Israel, -as did AIPAC member's Larry Franklin, Stephen Rosen and Keith Weissman- and to destroy those who criticize Israel. Yet AIPAC is not registered as a foreign government's lobby, as the US law requires.

Those who believe that AIPAC intimidates its opponents by leveraging the Jewish vote (2% of total Voters) or the vast Jewish political contributions to the process are only partially correct. The preferred weapon of choice at AIPAC's disposal is the army of Jewish and non-Jewish reporters who pledged total loyalty to Israel for ideological or career-enhancing reasons. These loyal attack dogs can ruin the career of any politician in matter of days if dared to challenge any of Israel's multiple fallacies.

Take John McCain's initial acceptance of Rev. Hagee's endorsement. McCain admitted doing so because Hagee's strong support for Israel. Using the Jewish vote argument does not make mathematical sense in this case. Hagee called the Catholic Church "Great Whore" and "False Cult System" and this is profoundly offensive to Catholics. Yet, McCain chose to please 2% of the voters (Jewish) at the expense 20% of the voters (Catholics). How could 2% of the voters trump the 20%? It can only happen when the 2% have clout that is far more proportional to their numbers. AIPAC uses this clout in the so-called mainstream media to blackmail and destroy the critics of Israel. This is precisely what we have witnessed today at the AIPAC's Annual Conference. Our spineless politicians were standing in line in false pretence praising Israel; trying to safeguard their political careers. First, it was Pelosi, Obama, Clinton, and then McCain, all clamoring to please Israel at the expense of our own national interest.

A very, very unfortunate speech that goes to show this man's talk about change is likely much greater than his actual efforts will be to promote it. Unfortunately, those of us who speak Arabic, Hebrew, German and a host of other languages that have aided our research of primary source documentation know that his simplified recounting of the creation of Israel was just that. Napoleon was just one of many non-Jewish Europeans who wanted to establish Israel and a region where Western dominance could be used in the Middle East. Zionist rabbis who traveled to the region reported to their communities upon return that "although the bride is beautiful, she's married to another man." False understanding of history should be challenged if progress toward real peace is to be made in the Middle East, which is built atop thousands of years of history. I hope Sen. Obama will reconsider his flawed understanding of the region to one of promoting lasting reconciliation through the pursuit of justice.

American pragmatism in regards to Israel would demand that an American president has a concrete and consistent "national security strategy" designed for the United States of American and not the State of Israel. This does not exist today and Obama's comments suggest that he will also fail to fulfill this necessity.

Consequently the United States is compromised from security standpoint because the US cannot operate as a just "sovereign" from a hegemonic point of view. The position of the US in regards to Israel is compromised because the "Security of Israel is sacrosanct", which means that the security of Palestinians or Lebanese or Syrians or Jordanians or Egyptians or Iraqis and so on are not—their security is defined by the whim of Israel or as we have seen in Iraq the whim of the President.

In response to Obama's comment in regards to Israel's security being sacrosanct, we might have hoped to hear that their security must respect human rights and fall with in the bounds of international law and that they state their case before the UN. That Israel is not respected in the UN, is not built on anti-Semitism, though there undoubtedly is anti-Semitism to be found, the real issue has more to do with Israel's actions in regards to the rights of Palestinians in general and because they are armed with atomic weapons they are in breach of the laws governing the nonproliferation of atomic weapons. In other words Israel's WMD contradict the National Security Strategy of President Bush.

It is this denial of responsibility by the leadership of our nation that lacks all form for pragmatism. If security in the Middle East were the sacrosanct policy of the United States government then there would peace in the Middle East. So what one must find out is who is it that "wins" by this state of perpetual war and chaos? Certainly not us—because we stand on the very doorstep of total bankruptcy! Those who can be viewed as the winner—whose trail can be discovered by following the money—are the real enemies and they can be contained!

The existence of Israel is one thing; the imprisonment of entire people is altogether something else. That cannot be called "security" and it cannot not defended—not even by those who envision themselves as the "chosen people" of God. Israel with its history of the holocaust seems to be almost oblivious to its state sanctioned policies of "ethnic cleansing" and "ethnic imprisonment" or more properly termed "apartheid"—perhaps Jews believe its okay when they do it—maybe it is time for a Palestinian version of QBVII? We are at any rate not speaking of "sacrosanct" but rather perversion. If the US is going to obtain a state of pragmatism as opposed to a position of dogmatism then Israel will have to be told a few things they do not want to hear.

More critically, if the Jewish lobby threatens American interests then the Jewish lobby will in the long run be crushed and the conditions for this are rising rapidly. This can occur if the US dollar becomes so weak that the US begins to crumble and then there will arise American politicians that will blame the collapse of US power on Jews—these politicians will at first be unpopular but as the depression thickens they will win power. Jews perhaps ought to recognize that they do not really have any place to run other than the US (well there is of course Israel but undermining the US is part and parcel to undermining the future of Israel), which because they serve two masters, it will be argued that they are undermining us at the expense of Israel—which ultimately means that they are undermining the nation (Israel) they love as well.

Regardless, Israel operates as it does because it has no constraints placed on it by the US—ironically this is because American leadership "appeases" Israel. I say ironically because it is the recent accusations by President Bush and would be President John McCain who argue that Obama's willingness to talk to the alleged "enemy" is guilty of appeasement. Such statements by the President and the would be president McCain merely show that these men do not understand "power" but rather represent the minds of provincial dogmatists. Thus when Israel takes it upon itself to invade Lebanon over the kidnapping of two soldiers and a few rockets it is totally out of proportion to "the threat". Still the invasion was allowable because there is no American foreign policy constraint in place saying—if you take any unilateral military action you will be punished. A combination of the EU and the US does have the power to tell Israel either you behave as though you belong to this world or else you will pay financially. The price of Israel's failed invasion and their inability to "conquer" Lebanon ought to send alarm bells in regards to Israel's hawkish standpoint.

The pragmatics of the US in regards to the Middle East is obvious. American interests are to a high degree the same as that of the world—stability in the region means a constant price on oil, which again enhances sound principles for global stability and prospering trade and a constant price on oil means that which regulates its price are normal economic forces (war is not a normal economic force)—for example that the value of the dollar is strong (in parity with the Euro) and inflation in the US is low. The role of the US is not to be Israel's little shoe shiner boy, but rather to be the master of diplomacy so that if peace is to be created then all parties in the Middle East must be brought together and a deal hammered out. Thus when Bush decided to attack Iraq he punishes the world as well as Americans and when Israel attacks Lebanon they too punish the world because it destabilizes the region and it increases the animosity towards the US because the world knows that Israel takes the action it takes with the blessings of America written all over it—so much for bringing democracy to the middle east. It also fuels Arabs with grounds to jack up the price of oil.

The BS that it is impossible to create a Palestinian State is simply not true. But the alternative to a Palestinian state is that Israel becomes a true democracy as opposed to a "Jewish State" for Jews and become a Democracy for People. Then the walling in of Palestinians would be undemocratic. Such a situation would mean that Palestinians vote as citizens of Israel and as such entitled to all of the rights entitled to Israelis. This would mean that policing the people with tanks and machine guns would also be illegal and the assassinations would be illegal and that people cannot simple be held indefinitely or tortured but would have to be arrested using "evidence" and in general Israel would have to abide by such principles as "habeas corpus" and "due process". So Democracy in Israel wouldn't be Democracy for Jews and Prison for Palestinians but rather Democracy for both.

Instead we have an apartheid regime that hides behind American cowardice—with the exception of Jimmy Carter who is refusing to appease Israel—here appeasement means that Israel is not held accountable for its apartheid policies. Thus had the US not appeased Israel then the "unilateral" invasion of Lebanon would have been met with immediate sanctions against Israel or appeasement is allowing Israel to have nukes while Iran is to be hunted down like a stray dog—or if we recalled Saddam Hussein's "unilateral" invasion of Kuwait was met with immediate retaliation by the US while the total destruction of Lebanon by Israel was met with a 30 billion dollar paycheck complements of Uncle Sam.

It does seem that Obama has through his statements already undermined his credibility in future negotiation in the Middle East if he so happens to win the presidency. Still and in spite this obvious weakness, he'll get my vote

Say no to Zionism. Say no to Racism. Obama is just like the rest. He supports racist fascist Israel. Vote for Ralph Nader if you want real change.

While US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has been pressuring Israel to stop the expansion of Israeli settlements on Palestinian land, the US government has, at the same time, been offering tax breaks to US-based organizations who engage in settlement expansion.
Pressurising? More like giving a little slap on the wrists, in comaprison with sanctions and threats of war to any other Middles East country which breaks international law.
I wonder whether Barack Obama approves of these tax breaks!

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On June 21, 2004, Ralph Nader, the well known consumer rights' activist and prospective presidential candidate, took the dramatic, and radical, step of accusing George Bush Jr and the American Congress of being zionist puppets. "The subservience of our congressional and White House puppets to Israeli military policy has been consistent. They're almost all puppets. There are two sets: Congressional puppets and White House puppets. When the chief puppeteer (Ariel Sharon) comes to Washington, the puppets prance." (Ralph Nader 'Ralph Nader: Conservatively Speaking' The American Conservative).
Nader reiterated the same point a week later, "What has been happening over the years is a predictable routine of foreign visitation from the head of the Israeli government. The Israeli puppeteer travels to Washington. The Israeli puppeteer meets with the puppet in the White House, and then moves down Pennsylvania Avenue, and meets with the puppets in Congress. And then takes back billions of taxpayer dollars. It is time for the Washington puppet show to be replaced by the Washington peace show."" (Nader's speech to the conference of the Council for the National Interest entitled, "The Muslim Vote in Election 2004″ quoted in 'Ralph Nader Calls Israel a "Puppeteer"' IsraelNN.com June 30, 2004).

why can't we vote for someone who doesn't bow down to the evils of the Mossad and AIPAC...

We can.

We just can't do it if we keep buying into the idea that our only choices come from the DemoPublican or RepubliCrat wings of our Single Ruling Party.
And the heavy-hitting forces of the Single Ruling Party and their wholely-owned media outlets are going to do everything in their power to see that we keep buying into that illusion.