MOJO VIDEO: Palin for President?

| Tue Oct. 28, 2008 2:30 PM PDT

At a Sarah Palin rally in Fredericksburg, Virginia, earlier this week, Mother Jones found rank-and-file Republicans excited about John McCain, but even more excited about his potential VP.

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Sarah "I can see Russia from my house" Palin for president? The person who can't name any magazines she reads? What on earth could these people be thinking? Or are they thinking at all?

Hmmm. Did anyone here voice an original point of view? Not one of them spoke in terms that were not spoon-fed to them. Sad.

I agree, she and "57-state" Obama are both too inexperienced, which poses the question of American voters being particularly gullible when marketing engineers like Rove and Axelrod impose their under-experienced candidates on us.

You have some scary people living in your country. Question for the last woman who spoke... have you actually read 1984? Or anything for that matter? And where exactly do you get your opinions from? Surely not the media.

I'm constantly amazed at the fervent accusation that Obama is a communist/socialist coming from the party that uses "Country First" as their slogan. In a communist regime the state is the most important thing. If the constant mantra of Country First uttered by all followers doesn't ring of 1984 I'm not sure what would. Sounds perfectly Stalinist to me. Evidently the McCain campaign has lost all sense of irony.

You mean the McCain campaign is nothing but irony...and contradictions.
Country first is for the people
War is peace
Slavery is freedom

Oh my God.....wake the kids, call the neighbors!! The fascists are coming.
It is time for either a revolution or
emmigration. In my humble opinion, of
course.

Kathy Quinn
Lehigh Valley, PA

Gee Kathy, what experience do you have to even comment. Oh, you are a republican and thereby a know-all...

@ BobC: Umm... I'm pretty Kathy was joking. Either way, I wouldn't want to live in the USA no matter what my political leaning was.

I wonder which country they are putting first. Saudi Arabia? China?

Certainly not the US.

It looks like this crowd is slightly inbred. Another few generations of this kind of inbreeding and we WILL have a banjo-playing Messiah.

No thinking or rationality is permitted in conservative world. Surely no one interviewed has indulged in either.

Just out of curiosity, what country do you live in????

the above post meant for 'guy incognito'

You know the answer to that. They are robots.

In 8 years I don't want her winking at me. But her daughter, with baby then in daycare, might run instead!

QUOTE>>>"And Alaska- we're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's COLLECTIVELY Alaskans own the resources. So we SHARE IN THE WEALTH when the development of these resources occurs."

This is a quote from Gov. Palin to a New Yorker Magazine reporter made 2 months ago in which she boasted about being able to give $1200 to every man, woman, and child in her home state of Alaska which is sometimes described as a SOCIALIST state because of its COLLECTIVE ownership of resources.

In light of this information straight from the horse's mouth, it would seem that the Governor of Alaska who dreams of becoming one heartbeat away from the presidency can be labeled as a HYPOCRITE, SNAKE-OIL SALESMAN, DOUBLE-TALKER, or "SOCIALIST"!

Alas, I prefer to use ONE word to describe the pathetic Governor............"FRAUD"! ............ Plain and simple. And not a very clever one either.

BE A SUCKER FOR THE RICH................................VOTE REPUBLICAN!

My country, I am sad to say, has the most 'Ignorant people on planet earth living in it'. I mean absolute MORONS. No wonder my fellow Veterans are being KILLED in a profit oriented so-called war in Iraq! Palin is an absolute stupid ass. Todd is Anti-American 'secessionist'. Fact. I hope I hit the lottery and can leave this country soon! We have gone totally insane. Few read. Millions believe what the MEDIA feeds them. They watch 'Reality TV and refuse to READ! And the marketing used to keep Americans STUPID, well, it's too damn easy Karl Rove. Great job asshole! Joe the Plumber, perfect example. He is Anti-American by not paying his ;fair share of taxes' a Hypocrit!, An old guy with NO LICENSE, at HIS AGE?? Why? Laziness? Stupidity?, BACK-TAXES, little education, A LOSER...And millions of you idiots are listening to this moron. Hell, you're so stupid, the Media pays the loser to speak to you about 'Sarah'. wow! Wake the hell up!!! The world is watching and billions know 'we have gone nuts'. James, Veteran
4150 Troops killed for $3 trillion in PROFIT (Halliburton/KBR/Bl;ackwater Corp. No-Bid GOP Contractors..wow, stupid again) and growing! We are HATED by BILLIONS! Wake up stupid asses. We had Bush (Drug and Alcohol addict and moron) now you want MORE???? The GOP can KISS THIS VETERANS ASS. I had a Passport at age 19. University at age 25 and graduated, yeah, to you 'Joe Plumber punk'. International work ( 9 countries and several fortune 100 companies = Executive Experience. Served my country, working for two generals, nato command. Does this make ME a Candidate for VP or President in la-la-land of the GOP???? Idiots! Read people..Read. THINK!

If that isn't enough, how about Mayor Bloomberg hijacking NY voters by having term limits overturned so he can go on playing king-dick? There's a real Republican message to the NY voter: YOU DON'T COUNT! Talk about spit in your face. That bastard should be impeached, along with every other politician who defies the voters' mandate!

James Veteran, I salute you! I'm not worried because Obama will win. I lived in Fredericksburg for 5 years -- I won't ever again, thank goodness!!

Dear cathy:
Thanks. I am getting calls from my buddies in IRaq 'daily' and the Media doesn't 'ask them what they think?' why? Because tens of thousands know, GW Bush is INSANE and an asshole who gave 'Trillions of taxpayers money (we are now BANKRUPT) to Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater and thousands of other GOP Contractors.. fact. OUR TROOPS ARE THEIR WATCHING US GET F******. And they are getting KILLED for this profiteering. Like Pat Tillman, (Murdered by GW Bush) who was going to come forward (anti-war) he was assassinated, because he knew the TRUTH. General Wesley Clark is 'Demanding an Investigation' of his murder! Obama can get it going for the FAMILY (they deserve the truth) once he's in the Oval Office. Troops are FILMING the madness. 2009 we will learn the TRUTH. James, Veteran, nato

Great point, Justin!! Thanks for your insight. These McPalin supporters are very frightening in their ignorance of reality.

All products of the incredibly inept american educational system... SAD!

Palin could be the best thing to happen for Progressives in a long time. While there is clearly a Palin "cult" within the Republican base of evangelicals, NRA gun-rights voters, cowboys and conservatives, there are many, many more moderate Republicans who are ashamed that McCain chose a running mate with minimal knowledge of and experience with important national & international issues.

A Palin run for the White House in 2012 will split the Republican party into ineffective chunks of Palin cultists and more moderate, intellectual, Republicans. It's a Progressive's dream...So, Go Sarah, Go!

WOW................."James Veteran"!

I thought that I was a hard-core cynic...........you REALLY put it out there.

Thanks for expressing the thoughts of a majority of intelligent and informed people out here. Hopefully it will translate into a BIG change in our leadership next week!

BE A SUCKER FOR THE RICH.............VOTE REPUBLICAN!

Hey Mark:
Absolutely 'Spot On Perfect'. That is all we need, Palin 2012, and Obama will have ANOTHER 4 YEARS, and the GOP will be DESTROYED from within for 20 years! ha! Love it.

High level GOP have said, 'PLAIN IS A CANCER TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY'. Good. I hope it is malignant.

James, Veteran
Nato, Investigations

And G W Bush, the alcoholic Coke fiend was experienced? He was experienced in putting to death 100's of prisoners. Pray tell, what the hell else was he experienced in, other than drugs and drink???? Oh wait, experienced in evading going to Southeast Asia, experienced in ignoring his flight physical, experienced in BS and lying, silly me...

When is Bristol's shotgun wedding going to happen? I'm glad Bristol followed mom's advice to make the "responsible" decision to abandon any possibility of going to school or trying to get a decent job before raising a family at the ripe old age of 17.

You Betcha! Palin's conservative values clearly are going far to place the "country first!"

When is Bristol's shotgun wedding going to happen?

Way to take The High Road!

I believe I'll be in Scotland a' fore ye, Bruce!

Your's Truly,

Dundonald

They're NOT thinking! They're feeling! This is Identity Politics. It's what got Bush elected. But it won't work this time. Why in the world do average people think that someone "just like them" is qualified to run the country? Identity politics.

This is just another example(of many)that shows the level of ignorance that abounds within the Repukelican party!

In the years that I have been on this planet, I have noticed an indisputable FACT about human behavior. People who are "aceholes" first of all do NOT know that they are being "aceholes". Secondly, if you point out to them that they are engaging in "acehole" behavior it only makes them become even MORE of an "acehole". Thus confirming their "aceholeness".

This seemingly natural constant within the human universe has shown me that the R.M.C.(rich man's club) has also noticed this phenomenon and decided to exploit it. They have gone from the party of conservatism to now the OFFICIAL party of the ignorant "acehole"!

In the "information age" knowledge is POWER. If you have no "knowledge" of history it's as if you were born yesterday. This in effect gives all the people with the "information and knowledge" all the POWER over the ignorant "aceholes".

The Repukelicans have discovered that an ignorant constituency is easy to manipulate and pull the wool over their eyes. We now see that their surrogates are becoming JUST as ignorant like this article demonstrates.

If there is no one to challenge such ignorance, then all the false fabrications are taken at face value by a flock of sheep who will take as gospel anything that their R.M.C. leaders feed them.

BAAAAAA.....BAAAAAAAAA.......BAAAAAAAAA!

BE A SUCKER FOR THE RICH(my little lambs).........VOTE REPUBLICAN!

THEY SAY VOTING FOR OBAMA WILL SINK THE US TO THE BOTTOM? SERIOUSLY FOLKS, LOOK WHAT gw HAS DONE-RECORD HIGH DEFICITS, TWO WARS (ONE INSTIGATED PURELY BASED ON LIES), AND AN ECONOMIC CRISIS THE LIKES OF WHICH HAS NOT BEEN SEEN SINCE 1929. AMERICA, YOU ARE AT THE BOTTOM ALREADY BUT DO NOT SEEM TO FATHOM HOW FAR YOU HAVE FALLEN. I LIKE THE US BUT THE CONSERVATIVE AGENDA IS NOTHING BUT BAD NEWS FOR YOUR GREAT COUNTRY. DO YOU REALLY WANT 4 MORE YEARS OF THE SAME. THINK ABOUT IT CLEARLY AND IGNORE NONSENSICAL POLITICAL RHETORIC.

Palin said that her daughter made the "CHOICE" to keep her baby.

The key word here being CHOICE.

this country's children aren't reading, I agree with James Vet, I being a veteran myself, feel that this madness of Iraq & Afghanistan is draining this counrty of our dignity,losing jobs, mine after 12yrs, McCAIN only scares me more now thtt he picked that wacky bitch from ALASKA

Who you want for President should be influence by what priorities,what emphasis or policies you think are important to the country at this time. I'm looking for an individual that surrounds themselves with people that have skill and ideas. George Bush seem like a fun guy to have a beer with us just 'common folks', like ourselves. He still may be a likable guy to some people. Make up your own mind and just vote for who you think can actually do the job. Forget the hype.

I'm ashame to say that I live in America where politicians are using fasle fibs and rehtoric to try and gain office.

Govenor Palin and Senator McCain sound like what they are portraying Mr. Obama: Terorrist, socialist, and radical muslim.

These Republican candidates would be good speakers for the KKK and Arian Nation.

They are trying to put the country back to the 50's and 60's era.

The country has come a long way so let those of us that have the love of Jesus keep striving for a unified America.

I want the one lady in the interview know that this election is not a God commandment. Are you saved lady?

Palin in 2012? God forbid this nation if elected. Some signs read: "What a Chick." If she would be elected, the only chick will be in her pot.

Palin is a proto-fascist, but too ignorant of history to realize it. Her fans appear to be mainly the cultural illiterates who swallow whatever vile hatred, distortions, and lies Rush Limbaugh & Company spew. It's tragic: "good" people grinning with clueless delight at Palin's demagoguery. Want to talk history? Compare them with the lower class Germans of the Weimar Repubic, who smiled like hapless goons at the young Hitler. America is not immune to this viral madness.

TRUST????
Have you not heard that Sarah Palin was found quilty of ethics violations for going against the Public Trust of the people of Alaska?...read the troopergate report....
lies...just investigate, very easy to do if you really care about our wonderful country, to see just how much she has done...bridge to nowwhere..a lie...earmarks..guess which state receives the higest per capital of any state...do some basic research folks..oh well it is only an election of our top leaders...so do you really care??

John McCain & Sarah Palin turned the election to one of those dirty & fake reality TV
shows & made America looks like the Banana Republic of the village people !

Whoa there folks! Relax. The result of this election was decided months ago. Cool logic demonstrates this.

The single most powerful man in the US, David Rockefeller, put his money on Obama. How do we know this? Because Zbigniew Brzezinski, the man David appointed to create the largest military/industrial intelligence policy formulation organisation in the world... the Trilateral Commission... has also been installed as Obama's primary advisor.

Clearly, if you know how politics really works, Palin was nominated as running mate as an insurance that, by some fluke, McCain's real behaviour in Vietnam does not hit the Murdoch-controlled media. Palin will be the back-up sword that McCain falls on.

Why the need for insurance you ask? I'm guessing here, but I suspect Rockefeller has decided that an Israeli-dominated White House is now America's most dangerously exposed vulnerability and he can no longer trust fanatical Israeliphobe Murdoch to support Obama.

Time will tell, folks. Tony Ryan, Australia (the unrepresented 51st state, in case you haven't noticed)

JNH88KR,
Don't blame Sarah Palin 4 what she says because she only reads what she was told
to read but if you take her written note away from her,she'll talk like this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh5R1blCqlc
NOTE :This is what Sarah Palin used to be before she entered politics two years ago !

What a bunch of a**holes (some of you) Americans are. Semi-literate, pugnacious,despised worldwide with a country imploding and yet you can still support those who will drag your country to the cesspool of the world. Thank you Mother Jones for being a voice of sanity. Believe it or not there are non Americans who read you and appreciate your effort. Iphela, Republic of South Africa

Good one "massimo"!

It's not just the fact that she spews nothing but lies and ignorance. It's the fact that her voice is SO unpleasant as to be nearly unlistenable! Can you imagine having to listen to 4 years of that "nails on chalkboard" voice?

If I had to wake-up to that voice every morning, I would cut my ears off. Has anyone checked Todd for earplugs?

BE A SUCKER FOR THE RICH............VOTE REPUBLICAN!

James Veteran, I intended to comment, but you pretty much said it all. I just visited relatives in Germany and there I found out what they and most Europeans think of us (not that I did not know.) USA, one of the largest land masses on earth populated by the most ignorant people on earth. I hope we can prove them wrong and vote for an intelligent president this time.

James Veteran,
I salute you brother & how I wish if someone listening to your scream that I can gladly
hear because what you're saying is absalutely true !the more I learn about our political system,the more I loose faith.I think the system was set up 4 certain breed of people & trust me,
EXPERIENCE & Qualification are not included.the TV networks are the most dangerous weapon in America
because they tell the people
what they want them to believe
so I cancel the cable TV because I sick & tired of reality Tv & the media and its lias.Sorry James,YOU'RE
NOT QUALIFIED TO RUN 4 ANY POLITICAL OFFICE because you're not a member of the club ! beside,YOU'RE OVER QUALIFIED..you must be C average ! every American must watch this video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7344181953466797353&q=spin&ei=h...

Reading Palin's supporters' comments.
I certainly understand Jefferson's pessimism about average Americans and his insistence that they NOT directly vote for a president. A dictator is more consistent and predictable than she and, maybe more intelligent!

I hope they do run her in '12. The repug base she's said to energize is just that: base, crass, low-grades who go for slapstick comedy and pro wrestling. This explains their conduct at rallies. These are the un-thinkingest repugnants collected to fill the ranks of a racist crowd run by the rich for the rich, and vote for Reagan and Bush/Bush. The less bigoted now have a better idea.

Whomever gets out the vote will win, the bigots or the patriots. Sarah Palin's popularity shows us that our dreams are just that; America is not a nation of informed, rational citizens acting in their own interests and putting the future of the Republic ahead of their own short sighted desires. America is a nation of irrational individuals for whom the sensational always trumps Truth or Reason; Celebrity always trumps the Issues; and for whom the more spectacular, gory, and vile lie is always more interesting than reality. For too many, education is akin to torture, unless you have one, and then you're an elitist. You'd think that after 8 years of W, people would want a president who doesn't think war is the solution, but then again, whose kids are fighting the wars anyway? Mostly nobody who counts, outside of military towns. You'd think that people would want a thoughtful president, but a lot of people would rather shoot themselves in the foot, and sell their grandkids futures to the Devil just to keep a black man out of the White House. Of course, our idiocy will have its consequences, despite our determined insistence that "It can't happen here". We forget the Eugenics movement, rejected in most of Europe, but embraced here and which collaborated with the efforts of the Nazis to create a master race. We forget the experience of the Germans, after WWI, in the 1920's, which is an awful lot like what we could expect when a Palin presidency wrecks the nation. We not only think we can write history, but that our expectations for Reality is what will be seen as Reality. It doesn't work that way. We'll find out, and probably sooner than we'd imagined.

I'm a little late with this response. I've read 1984 way back when. Orwell, wasn't it? Also read a book by Pynchon called Gravity's Rainbow in which the main character asserts that the average person can never be too paranoid when it comes to politicians.

It's easier for me to see Axelrod's Rove-like manipulation because I live in France. The French press is in the tank for Obama but not to the extent of the American media.

In addition, the French opposed Bush on Iraq both in and out of the UN discussions. When Powell was lying through his teeth at the UN in 2002, the French were still arguing against military intervention.
Which is why the French people didn't particularly like Obama strutting into Paris this last summer like a President Elect and warmongering on about how France should send soldiers to Afghanistan... a plan which Sarkozy is presently executing. Young men in my apartment building will be going to Afghanistan to play out the war games of people like Sarkozy and Obama, people who have never seen battle themselves.

I certainly won't vote for Obama. How can anybody be so gullible as to think Obama will reduce our military participation when he has clearly backed INCREASED troop presence in Afghanistan not to mention military strikes in Pakistan should we deem that this sovereign nation is not tending to terrorists enthusiastically enough.

What if another country had decided to bomb us after the royal cock-up of September 11th? France had warned the state department that a plot was afoot. What if France decided that they couldn't trust the ineptitude of the American government, so they would just have to fly in there and do a few well-targeted air strikes. That's the kind of policy you're voting for if you vote Obama.

Vote 3rd party: McKinney, Nader, Barr. They're all better on the war than Obama.

Good post, but that was $1200 ABOVE the already 4 figure payment that every man, woman and child gets each year. This, in addition to NOT paying ANY taxes, federal OR state.

Would I prefer Palin to McCain-Yup!Why?-I don't want experience when that experience is a continued backing of the War! McCain admitted in an interview with CNN's Larry King when questioned about Palin's readiness in case the U.S. was attacked that an Arkansas Governor did a good job and he didn't have any experience-Strange arguement-didn't McCain realize that could apply to Obama as well?To our Veteran, I can only say that President Bush has not been the Leader you or America deserved and he will have to give an accounting-whether it happens soon or historically I cannot say!

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