In Search of John Doe No. 2: The Story the Feds Never Told About the Oklahoma City Bombing
Federal officials insist that the Oklahoma City bombing case was solved a decade ago. But a Salt Lake City lawyer in search of his brother's killers has dug up some remarkable clues—on cross-dressing bank robbers, the FBI, and the mysterious third man.
Released on parole in 1988, Kenney cleaned up, started working in construction again, and got married. His first child, a boy named Vito, was born nine days after Kenney was arrested at the border.
On August 19, 1995, Kenney called Jesse's house to report that he had just arrived at the Oklahoma City Federal Transfer Center. Jesse's wife, Rita, an attorney and law professor, was surprised he'd been shipped from San Diego all the way to Oklahoma for a probation hearing. Kenney told her—in a conversation that was, like all inmates' calls,"It's that jet age stuff."
Kenney called again that night, sounding chipper, and the brothers strategized about the parole hearing; Kenney promised to call again the next day. But no call came until early the morning of August 21, when the phone rang at Kenney and Jesse's mother's house. It was the prison warden. Kenney, she said, had committed suicide that night. She offered to have the body cremated at government expense—a move without precedent in federal prison policies—but Wilma Trentadue turned her down.
Five days later, Kenney's body arrived at a mortuary in California. There were bruises all over it, clumsily disguised with heavy makeup; slashes on his throat; ligature marks; and ruptures on his scalp. Photos of the injuries were included in a letter that Jesse drew up on August 30 and hand-delivered to the Bureau of Prisons (bop), which is part of the U.S. Department of Justice (doj)
."I have enclosed as Exhibit 'A' a photograph of Kenneth's body at the funeral," it read. "This is how you returned my brother to us.... My brother had been so badly beaten that I personally saw several mourners leave the viewing to vomit in the parking lot! Anyone seeing my brother's battered body with his bruised and lacerated forehead, throat cut, and blue-black knuckles would not have concluded that his death was either easy or a 'suicide'! " After describing Kenney's injuries in detail, and speculating how they might have come about (bruises to his arms from being gripped, others to his legs from being knocked to the ground with batons, slashes to his throat from someone "possibly left-handed," which Kenney was not), Jesse concluded: "Had my brother been less of a man, you[r] guards would have been able to kill him without inflicting so much injury to his body. Had that occurred, Kenney's family would forever have been guilt-ridden... with the pain of thinking that Kenneth took his own life and that we had somehow failed him. By making the fight he did for his life, Ken has saved us that pain and God bless him for having done so!"
Two days later, on September 1, the Bureau of Prisons issued a press release stating that Kenney's death had been "ruled a suicide by asphyxiation" and that the injuries on the body "would indicate persistent attempts...to cause himself serious injury or death." (Officials would later put forth an elaborate scenario in which Kenney tried to hang himself but fell, bruising his head and body, and then tried to slit his throat with a toothpaste tube before succeeding in his second hanging attempt.)
In fact, as the bop would have known, no official ruling as to the manner of death had been made; rather, every communication from the state medical examiner's office indicated it was being treated as a suspicious death. On August 22, the day after the body was delivered to the ME's office, Chief Investigator Kevin Rowland called the local fbi office to file a complaint. On a form documenting the call, the fbi agent wrote "murder" and noted that Rowland "believes that foul play is suspect[ed] in this matter." The state's chief medical examiner, Fred Jordan, refused to classify the case a suicide, listing the manner of death as "unknown" pending investigation.
As was customary with suspicious deaths, within days the Bureau of Prisons formed a board of inquiry. In an unusual move, the staff attorney heading the probe was told to treat his team's findings as "attorney work product," which would protect it from discovery in any future lawsuit as well as from Freedom of Information Act requests. In October the bop's general counsel issued a memo noting that "there is a great likelihood of a lawsuit by the family of the inmate." To this day, the bop, fbi, and Department of Justice refuse to discuss the case; spokespeople for each agency referred questions for this story to an fbi official in Oklahoma City, who declined to comment citing ongoing litigation.
Not long after Kenney died, Jesse got an anonymous phone call. "Look," the caller said, "your brother was murdered by the fbi. There was an interrogation that went wrong.... He fit a profile." The caller mentioned bank robbers but didn't give many details. Jesse didn't know what to make of the tip; he put the call out of his mind.
Exactly what happened the night Kenney died is impossible to reconstruct, in large part because a great deal of evidence went missing or was destroyed by prison officials. According to bop documents, a guard discovered Kenney hanging from a bedsheet noose in his cell at 3:02 on the morning of August 21, 1995. Stuart A. Lee, the official in charge at the prison that night, refused to unlock the cell while he waited for a video camera to film the body. According to a bop memo, he would later tell investigators that he knew Kenney was dead and he thus "was not concerned with taking any immediate emergency action." The prison medic on several occasions said he performed cpr on Kenney, but later admitted he made no effort at resuscitation. The video of the body was never made, or it was erased, depending on whose account you believe.
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Were Guthrie and Kenney T. the same man? Certainly the ARA was a bona fide militant organization, or by today's terms a terrorist group. Did Kenney T. have any connection with it? Guthrie was caught on the border, but Kenney T. was already in prison by that time, correct? So the connection between the Kenney T. and the Oklahoma City bombing was the incorrect investigation and confusion of identity between Guthrie and Kenney T. by DOJ investigations, correct?
They weren't the same man at all. I believe Guthrie was also found after "hanging" himself in prison two years later. Kenny Trentadue was never linked to ARA or any other "movement" at all. He was a small-time bank robber in the late 70's/early 80's who ran with a small bank-robbing crew not affiliated to anything political or otherwise. The U.S. Gov. just plain had a mistaken identity and sent in goons to "unconventionally interrogate" him without a proper background check. The FBI had insiders (Andy the German and others never officially identified but referred to by various ARA members) teach these folks how to make bombs and rob banks to help finance the movement as part of a sting. The sting went bad when the Aryans disappeared into the landscape after getting their training courtesy of the U.S. Government. They effectively taught these folks how to blow up the OK Fed, lost track of them, and then tried to cover up their blunder.
Finally the rest of the investigation is being done. Don't forget that McVeigh made a bomb with 2 tons of ammonium nitrate, but not a whiff of ammonia was on the scene! A retired US Army EOD E-9 was a witness to the blast, was interviewed on TV (I saw the interview) and made observations proving that the US Government lied.
The fine line between law enforcement and lawlessness is a fiction. Our government is controlled by gangsters, regardless of administration or party affiliation. Oklahoma and Waco and their coverups were the work of the Clinton "good guys", worshiped by Bill Maher, Al Franken, and all the other "progressives".
There are depths beneath the depths. Stories like this one leave no doubt about that.
http://www.truthcult.com/jesse_trentadue
There's an interview with Jesse where he tells his story . .
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What can't American's get? That their gov't is controlled by politically motivated people who want to control the world and everyone in it... the Masons and Illuminati, whose objectives are stated (control the world and implement a New World Order). Fools who think criminal and fascist orgs like theirs should be permitted to flourish will see fellow citizens murdered, events like Pearl Harbor, Ruby Ridge, Waco, Murrah Building being bombed, 9/11 as an essential part of their mode of operation. They think everyone who isn't part of their orgs are trash to be used as cannon fodder or bait for another event.
Why is it that no one brings up that there were other bombs planted in the Murrah Building that didn't go off? Bombs that McVeigh couldn't have placed IN THE BUILDING were found (and ohhh correct me if I'm wrong but controlled-demolition.com 'cleaned up' before they brought the whole building down.) The unJustice system executed McVeigh so he couldn't reveal anything to the public that the feds didn't want known about their own complicity in having the Murrah bombing done. McVeigh wasn't innocent, but the feds used him to their own ends to totally destroy the building (but they failed in the first attempt)... and the American public will find they are victimized again, when its Illuminati or Masonic leaders decide they want to attack Iran. Secrecy doesn't work in a democracy... but then the USA doesn't even have a democracy, and never has. They just think they do while the Masons and Illuminati fiddle with the system so they never have to answer for their crimes, and keep the control where they want it... to start wars whenever they want (and to profit from them.)
America, land of the not-so-free, will soon be injected with RFID tags so that their government can keep tabs on them all, slaves to their government. The federal program starts May 2008. Be good slaves. The gov't needs you to obediently accept this so they can use your efforts to control the whole world. They will reward you.... with more death and destruction but the good parts will seem like such a good deal.
this is a good article, but i think its author has a somewhat naive view of the relationship between intelligence agencies and fringe movements. when fringe movements pop up, intelligence agencies infiltrate them and use them to their own benefit. this often involves false flag terror attacks. it happens again and again and again throughout history. don't let intelligence agencies fool you with their apparent oversights and incompetence. what looks like incompetence is all part of the game. your article contains the following: The bombing "grew out of a definable social movement the authorities didn't understand," says Leonard Zeskind, a researcher who has tracked the far right for more than 30 years. "It went unsolved because of the character and gross mismanagement of the investigation. It was an outrageous crime, and the size of the crime magnifies the level of incompetence." what this "expert" should realize is that the intelligence community understands such "social movements" more than ANYONE. so much so that they use them as fronts for their own schemes.
I am sure that I have seen some media which was interviewing an exotic dancer at a nightclub who identified TM and AS as being customers at a strip club shortly before the OK bombing and comments that the club owner sent all CCTV footage including Ryder truck in the car park which was used in the bombing to the fbi?
Yes, Andreas Strassmeir is the key to understanding what happened in OKC. See The BND in OKC (http://thebndinokc.blogspot.com) for more info.
This kind of muderous tyrany and human rights violations are part and parcel of every government on the planet. We have been conditioned to believe that "it's not supposed to happen here." But just as courage love and compassion are not limited by geography, gender, race or religion, neither is sloth, evil, greed, and the lust for power over others. Frequently we criticize our government, failing to realize that it is but a reflection of each one of us...good bad and all points in between. It is comprised of villians and heroes and the roles are not always as discernable as on a television show. Unfortunately until we as a species and a culture can surrender our incessant need to be the "one who is right" and to control others this type of gross misuse and abuse of power will continue to be a part of our collective history.
I am schocked, saddened, and terrified by what I have read here and at the Democracy Now web site. However I also feel pride, optimisim, and confidence. I am proud to be among the readers who care enough to follow this sad tragic drama and to voice their thoughts. I am proud to live (at least for now)in a country where this type of exchange is possible without fear of reprisal (for now?). I am optimistic because I know that there are indeed good, honest people everywhere...in our governmental agencies too. Knowing that people like Mr. James Ridgeway (and all of the others who are lending their voices to this issue) have the courage, strength of heart and persistence to force the villians out of the cover of darkness and into the light. My confidence stems from knowing in my heart and head that WE as a people have found these truths to be self-evident...that all that is hidden shall be revealed.
There is a theme running through this entire tragic story...the transformative nature of change. From the twisted law enforcement officials whose conduct represents a stench in the nostrils of Madam Justice to the criminals whose confessions reveal a hidden truth, this is also a story of the thin line between good and evil. How does one become the other? What pivotal moment changed the protector of the law into a murder? What change took place within the hearts of Peter Langan and Terry Nichols? The single most important lesson here is not that we can't turst our government. But that we can't trust ourselves either. For as soon as one of us begins to think that we alone know "how things should be," then we go from being one of "us" to one of "them." From sinner to saint, from policeman to perpetrator of evil...all under the guise of righteousness. On our way to "becoming" it is very easy to become the very opposite of what we intended. If your sense of who you are must rest on what someone else isn't then (I'm a cop he's a criminal...I'm a Christian he's a Jew) perhaps you are not really who you think you are.
There are conspiracies behind the OKC bombing --- but not the ones you find all over the internet.
The conspiracy is this: Lie and ignore all the evidence available, especially from the trial transcripts, that made clear that that building and transporting the bomb well within the capabilities of a single knowledgeable individual who had the proper ingredients --- which he had. This wasn't a fertilizer bomb, except that the main ingredient, ammonium nitrate in the form available to McVeigh is a fertilizer.
But it isn't a fertilizer bomb because the form of ammonium nitrate available to McVeigh and for which Nicholls had a receipt was the low density ammonium nitrate made for explosives use. It was sold as fertilizer in areas close to the plants that made the stuff as it was cheaper than the normal high density ammonium nitrate designed for fertilizer.
Since OKC, this practice has stopped.
The low density stuff is so good for explosives use that all you need to add is a fuel, normally fuel oil to the top of a barrel of the AN --- no need to mix.
As for the nitromethane that McVeigh used instead of fuel oil --- that would work a bit better than fuel oil. McVeigh bought that stuff because he didn't understand (at the time he bought) that nitromethane wouldn't give a much better bang than fuel oil unless the AN, even low density AN, was ground into a form that would absorb a lot more nitromethane.
All of this information is available in the trial transcripts--- that's the biggest conspiracy of the OKC bombing.
J.D. Cash was one of the conspiracy members.
There are others.
For many humans the goal of protecting someone or something can justify almost any act, whether brave and courageous or heinous and cowardly. The same person can, in the service of an organization, family and even country, be responsible for both types of behavior because his or her cause is justified by his duty to protect. Unfortunately for Americans and people everywhere the power to corrupt even the highest ideals exists in human nature itself.
The desire to be appreciated and recognized by your family, leaders and commanders can be a very powerful influence in carrying out one's duty even if it means sacrificing your strongest beliefs. We need to instill that simplest of morals in to the deepest psyche of men and women everywhere; "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you", no matter what! One does not have to be a follower of any religion to maintain this simplest and wisest of philosophies.
Weren't the people from controlled-demolition.com the ones who 'cleaned up' the 9/11 mess and disposed of 99.999% of the physical evidence so it couldn't be used to convict the other conspirators? Do you think that the killing of Trentadue was connected to their wanting to keep secrecy about the FBI participation? Obviously the interrogators didn't know of the rest of the plot or they wouldn't have needed to kill him. Has anyone got a diagram showing the positions of the explosives that didn't go off? Imagine what would have happened if the explosives controlled-demolition had put in the building (cuz McVeigh couldn't have put them IN the building as he didn't have access to it) all had gone off. There wouldn't have been any survivors.
Another conspiracy of the OKC bombing. There were reports of bombs found in the building after the initial blast. One of the comments posted here is that there were additional bombs found.
There is no credible evidence that this is true. First responders, particularly firemen, have discussed the causes of the 2 bomb scares that day. Neither of them was a bomb. Read the magazine Fire Engineering for,I believe, October 1995, for details.
Yes, there could have been a million people directly and indirectly involved in the OKC bombing. But it was a simple truck bomb made possible because the US didn't enforce the simple separation of explosives type Ammonium Nitrate from the fertilizer market.
This separation probably wouldn't have stopped McVeigh. After all, he stole hundreds of pounds of commercial explosives (Tovex) from a quarry. As well, I think that the quarry had thousands and thousands of pounds of pre-mixed ANFO (ammonium nitrate fuel oil) explosives in 50 lb. bags.
Extremely troubling story with plenty to fuel ideas of conspiracy within our DOJ and functional affiliations right down to the local level. Courageous and excellent reporting with links to background, quite risky considering the media environment today where prestigeous journalism entities can be discredited with a wave of the propaganda wand.
America is currently in a tragic state where citizen apathy and cynicism are rampant. Our faith in Equal Justice, Equal Protection and American democracy itself is shaken to it's roots. We must hope that this story is truthfully resolved regardless of the outcome and that energetic reform is applied to restore our faith in democracy and to prevent further mishandling and coverup in our justice system.
How about John Doe #2 being a woman? The depictions of this person as described by witness(es?} at the truck rental yard may be the source of the police depiction of a dark-haired and clean-shaven suspect in military gear. Connect this with the discovery of a female leg in fatigue pants at the bombing scene.
The government agencies may all be corrupt but you can't make the Mason's a part of that. As for the Illumati--if I ever meet one I am going to ask if it is his/her desire to rule the world. If they are that intelligent then they know better.
The cover-ups and abuse of power by our government is deeply sad and disturbing, but should any of us be suprised? Don't get me wrong, I know that citizen powers over our own political figures have been, and continues to be compromised. But this is a society, in which its people, have for generations, tried to be a nation that bases their society on traditions of honor, integrity and individual freedom, but have been willing to accept corruption at the highest levels of their government. The cover-up of Kenny Trentadue, and the cover-ups of 9/11, and the current leader of the U.S., is just the latest example. The Founding Fathers created all of the laws that were supposed to ensure freedom, but they made these laws based on a society they believed would always be interested in politics. Before and after the Revolutionary War, practially every American colonist got their families dressed up every week, and went to their town halls to hear what was going on in politics and put in their own input. American Citizens from the late 1700's were heavily involved with law making and political affairs. I believe that the Founding Fathers would never have imagined that American Citizens would become so uninterested in their societies politics and the political leaders elected. The "checks and balances" of our Constitution, were made by a group of leaders that thought that their citizens would always be taking an active part in politics. Without the people constantly involved in elections and in the lawmaking of the U.S., the "checks and Bslances" are being balanced completely by political figures. But if the politicans are the only ones doing all the checks and balances... who's checking and balancing them? Until recently, american citizens have had little or no interest in political affairs. As citizens it was our job to be involved in politics with the same interest and pride as the First American Colonists, who understood that the only way to ensure they would never be under the rule of a king again, was to be active in the affairs of their government. By doing this, the People were the boss, and the politicans were our employees. Doesn't feel that way does it? In early 21st Century America it feels like we are the employees and have no control over the actions of our leaders. We the People, have been uninterested in the handling of our politics for so long... and by doing so have left our political leaders to their own devices, to the point that they, without us to govern them, have become opportunistic, power hungry, corporate lackies... instead of the representation of our Soverignty. What I'm trying to say with all of this is that we have to look at the corrupt behavior of our politicians and government officals and ask ourselves, if the American People in mass had never strayed away from the interest in our every day politics, would we have the leaders we do today? The cover-ups, political intrigue, "politics as usual," the slow dissolution of our civil rights, marajuana prohabition? Sure our government wouldn't be perfect but I believe that, had we stayed tuned in to political affirs rather then tuning ourselves out, we'd have a very different history then the one we have today. Finally let me just say that although the dishonorable conduct of government officals and politicans must be thwarted, we should try and remember how all of this corruption got started... this Nation was founded by the People, for the People, not by the Government, for the Government. We as a People once and for all have to put aside our petty differences and unite, not as liberals and conservatives but as a People... If we don't learn to agree to disagree and unite, not for any agenda, but to preserve "Liberty and Justice for all" democracy in the U.S. will fall over the next hundred years, and we will have condemned our decendents to a totalitarian state. Our "allies" will conquer us without firing a single shot. I can only hope that the masses can see what's happening before its too late.
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The cover-ups and abuse of power by our government is deeply sad and disturbing, but should any of us be suprised? Don't get me wrong, I know that citizen powers over our own political figures have been, and continues to be compromised. But this is a society, in which its people, have for generations, tried to be a nation that bases their society on traditions of honor, integrity and individual freedom, but have been willing to accept corruption at the highest levels of their government.
The cover-up of Kenny Trentadue, and the cover-ups of 9/11, and the current leader of the U.S., is just the latest example. The Founding Fathers created all of the laws that were supposed to ensure freedom, but they made these laws based on a society they believed would always be interested in politics. Before and after the Revolutionary War, practially every American colonist got their families dressed up every week, and went to their town halls to hear what was going on in politics and put in their own input. American Citizens from the late 1700's were heavily involved with law making and political affairs. I believe that the Founding Fathers would never have imagined that American Citizens would become so uninterested in their societies politics and the political leaders elected.
The "checks and balances" of our Constitution, were made by a group of leaders that thought that their citizens would always be taking an active part in politics. Without the people constantly involved in elections and in the lawmaking of the U.S., the "checks and Bslances" are being balanced completely by political figures. But if the politicans are the only ones doing all the checks and balances... who's checking and balancing them? Until recently, american citizens have had little or no interest in political affairs. As citizens it was our job to be involved in politics with the same interest and pride as the First American Colonists, who understood that the only way to ensure they would never be under the rule of a king again, was to be active in the affairs of their government.
By doing this, the People were the boss, and the politicans were our employees. Doesn't feel that way does it? In early 21st Century America it feels like we are the employees and have no control over the actions of our leaders. We the People, have been uninterested in the handling of our politics for so long... and by doing so have left our political leaders to their own devices, to the point that they, without us to govern them, have become opportunistic, power hungry, corporate lackies... instead of the representation of our Soverignty. What I'm trying to say with all of this is that we have to look at the corrupt behavior of our politicians and government officals and ask ourselves, if the American People in mass had never strayed away from the interest in our every day politics, would we have the leaders we do today? The cover-ups, political intrigue, "politics as usual," the slow dissolution of our civil rights, marajuana prohabition? Sure our government wouldn't be perfect but I believe that, had we stayed tuned in to political affirs rather then tuning ourselves out, we'd have a very different history then the one we have today.
Finally let me just say that although the dishonorable conduct of government officals and politicans must be thwarted, we should try and remember how all of this corruption got started... this Nation was founded by the People, for the People, not by the Government, for the Government. We as a People once and for all have to put aside our petty differences and unite, not as liberals and conservatives but as a People... If we don't learn to agree to disagree and unite, not for any agenda, but to preserve "Liberty and Justice for all" democracy in the U.S. will fall over the next hundred years, and we will have condemned our decendents to a totalitarian state. Our "allies" will conquer us without firing a single shot. I can only hope that the masses can see what's happening before its too late.
Pax to you all,
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Hal, of COURSE it's major news when the right does something wrong. You guys go around parading yourselves as the moral ones! If you're so moral, how come you do so many horrible things? I know, I know, we on the Left think we're moral too--that's not what I'm talking about. I mean you guys think you have a monopoly on morality. You think you've got Absolute Right on your side. You think no way in hell could anyone who is not on your side possibly be right about anything. So then why the criminal and hateful behavior? "By their fruits shall ye know them." There are a lot more helpers of the poor and champions of the oppressed on the Left than there are bombers and bank robbers. Think about that for a while.
Another link in the chain that screams inside job.People on the right can see Okalahoma City for what is was A total inside job carried out By the fed's.
But when it comes to 9/11 They cant stomach that their conservative controlled goverment could be involved.
Wake up both sides are controlled by the shadow goverment.Biden and Powell Have both predicted another international incident that will test Obama ,well how much more obvious can it get.Dont be suprised when it happens.
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