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Will Israel Attack Iran?

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A message to Obama from an observer in Israel: Don't flash the yellow light—not even once.

Mon Apr. 13, 2009 8:52 AM PDT

Introduction by Tom Engelhardt

Sometimes, reading about the Middle East, or at least about Israel, Iran, and nuclear weapons, feels like your most basic broken-record phenomenon. As New York Times op-ed columnist Roger Cohen reminded readers recently, there's nothing new about Israeli predictions that Iranian "madmen"—or rather, as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the head of a rather extreme new government, put it recently, "a messianic apocalyptic cult"—would soon have nuclear weapons in their hands. The charges and predictions of the imminent arrival of the Iranian bomb go back well into the 1990s and yet, despite Iran's growing nuclear enrichment program, we still don't know what the true predilections of its leaders are on the basic issue of weaponization. (They might, for instance, be planning to opt for the Japan "solution," not weaponizing, but simply being capable of doing so relatively quickly.)

The other part of that broken-record phenomenon concerns Israel's nuclear arsenal, which I wrote about at TomDispatch back in 2003, since which time remarkably little has changed. One of the genuinely strange aspects of just about anything you can read here in the U.S. on nuclear weapons and the Middle East is this: all fear and much print (and TV time) is focused on whether the Iranians may someday, in the near or far future, get a nuclear weapon; that is, we're focused on a weapon that doesn't yet exist and, for all we know, may never exist.

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In the meantime, just about no mention is ever made of Israel's massive nuclear arsenal, which includes city-busting weapons, and leaves that tiny country as perhaps the fifth largest nuclear power on the planet. In addition, at least some of its nuclear weapons are on submarines in the Mediterranean, which means that the country is invulnerable to the madness of a take-out first strike by any other nation. This is simply reality.

The Israelis have long taken a position in which, as Jonathan Schell once put the matter, "They won't confirm or deny that they have [nuclear weapons], but they have this curious phrase: 'We will not introduce nuclear weapons into the Middle East.' Evidently, in some abstruse way, possessing them is not introducing them." Our media has, in essence, accepted the Israeli approach to its arsenal as if it were a reasonable reportorial stance on the subject. It's from within this distinctly unbalanced world of heightened fear and silence that we read of both the dangers of the Iranian bomb and responses to it, which is in itself, simply put, dangerous.

Recently, warnings from Israel about possible future attacks on Iran have multiplied. Roane Carey, managing editor of the Nation magazine and co-editor of The Other Israel, is in Israel at the moment on a journalism fellowship at the Chaim Herzog Center for Middle East Studies and Diplomacy. As his first piece for this site, I asked him to offer an assessment from that country of just how dangerous the most recent warnings and threats actually are. Tom

Don't Flash the Yellow Light

Mixed Messages from Washington Could Lead to Catastrophe in Iran
By Roane Carey

JERUSALEM—Israel has been steadily ratcheting up pressure on the United States concerning the grave threat allegedly posed by Iran, which seems poised to master the nuclear fuel cycle, and thus the capacity to produce nuclear weapons. The new Israeli prime minister, Likud Party hawk Benjamin Netanyahu, has warned President Barack Obama that if Washington does not quickly find a way to shut down Iran's nuclear program, Israel will.

Some analysts argue that this is manufactured hysteria, not so much a reflection of genuine Israeli fears as a purposeful diversion from other looming difficulties. The Netanyahu government is filled with hardliners adamantly opposed to withdrawal from, or even a temporary freeze on, settlements in the occupied territories, not to mention to any acceptance of Palestinian statehood. On his first day as foreign minister, extremist demagogue Avigdor Lieberman, with characteristic bluster, announced that Israel was no longer bound by the 2007 Annapolis agreements brokered by Washington, which called for accelerated negotiations toward a two-state settlement.

Such talk threatens to lead the Israelis directly into a clash with the Obama administration. In what can only be taken as a rebuttal of the Netanyahu government's recent pronouncements, in his speech to the Turkish Parliament Obama pointedly reasserted Washington's commitment to a two-state settlement and to the Annapolis understandings. So what better way for Netanyahu to avoid an ugly clash with a popular American president than to conveniently shift the discussion to an existential threat from Iran—especially if he can successfully present it as a threat not just to Israel but to the West in general?

All of this adds up to a plausible argument against undue alarm over the latest Israeli warnings about an attack on Iran, but it's flawed on several grounds. There is a broad, generally accepted paranoia in Israel about Iran, a belief that its leaders must be stopped before they proceed much further in their uranium enrichment program. (This view is not shared on the Israeli left, but it's now a ghost of its former self.)

In an interview for TomDispatch, Ephraim Kam, deputy director of the Institute for National Security Studies in Tel Aviv and a specialist on the Iran issue, commented, "Of course there are different opinions, but there is a general consensus, among both security experts and political leaders, from Labor to the right wing. This is not a controversial issue: if Iran acquires nuclear weapons, it will pose a deep threat. It will be the first time in our history that another country can deal a major blow to Israel."

Kam hastens to add that, in his own view, the scenario Netanyahu proposes—that Iran is led by irrational fanatics who would nuke Israel at the first chance, even knowing that an Israeli nuclear counterstrike would be swift and catastrophic—is false. "Iran is a pragmatic, logical player," Kam says. He remains convinced that "even a radical fundamentalist regime" wouldn't attack Israel, but he adds, "This is just my assessment, and assessments can go wrong. I wrote a study on wrong assessments, so I know something about this." In other words, if Kam's claims about the Israeli consensus are correct, the country's leadership takes it for granted that Iran is indeed hell-bent on producing a nuclear weapon and is not inclined to take a chance that a nuclear Iran will play by the MAD (as in mutually assured destruction) rules hammered out by the two Cold War superpowers decades ago and never use it.

This attitude reflects a longstanding Israeli strategic principle: that no neighboring state or combination of states can ever be allowed to achieve anything faintly approaching military parity, because if they do, they will try to destroy the Jewish state. By this logic, Israel's only option is to establish and then maintain absolute military superiority over its neighbors; they will, so this view goes, accept Israel's presence only if they know they're sure to be defeated, or at least vastly outmatched.

This is the famous "iron wall," conceived by early Zionist leader Vladimir Jabotinsky more than 80 years ago, well before the founding of Israel itself. (Jabotinsky founded the Revisionist movement, which in opposition to the Labor mainstream refused to accept any territorial compromise regarding Zionist aims, such as partition. Although he and his followers were for years shut out of the political leadership, their views regarding Israel's neighbors became deeply lodged in the public psyche.) If Iran were to acquire the capacity to build even one nuke—Israel itself is estimated to have 150-200 of them—that iron wall would be considered seriously breached, and the country might no longer be able to dictate terms to its neighbors. Given Iran's support for Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza, Israel would then have to recalibrate its strategy both on its northern front and vis-à-vis the Palestinians.

Recent developments in Israel could certainly give the impression of a nation preparing for war: the Home Front command, one of four regional divisions of the Israeli army, has just announced the largest defense exercise in the country's history. It will last an entire week and is intended to prepare the civilian population for missile strikes from both conventional warheads and unconventional ones (whether chemical, biological or nuclear). Meanwhile, the country is accelerating its testing of missile defense systems, having just announced the successful launch of the Arrow II interceptor.

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Why do we continue to be the

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Why do we continue to be the scapegoat for Israel's rash decision making? I say we stop holding their hand and let the rest of the world have their way with them.

Iran doesn't actually seem

Iran doesn't actually seem to be the problem here, (granted they still might be pissed at US intervention in 1954 with the Kermit Affair but I suspect they've moved on.) It seems obvious that they should develop their nuclear programme in light of the fact that they situated very close to an highly aggressive rogue state which has nuclear capability. China did the same in the 50's and 60's to counter the possibility of nuclear attack from the US who, after all, are the only nation so far to have used WMDs and furthermore against a civilian population ! If Israel was really a 'good' neighbour then they would have nothing to fear from surrounding countries.But events in this and the last century have shown this to be far from the case. The suicidal move of militant action against Iran by the Zionist controlled IDF wont be doing the rest of the Israeli people any favours and is likely to escalate to unimaginable levels. Whether they like it or not, everyone gets exactly what they deserve and often that's hard to swallow. Pre-emptive military action has ALWAYS had dire consequences for the perpetrator in the long run; the US is living testamony to that irrefutable fact.

Stable Middle East: Iran, Israel and Nuclear Bomb

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Your article is informative and comperhensive. The question of Iran, Israel and nuclear bomb has been center piece for many discussions. We need to look at the problems of the Middle East in an integrated policy analyses. There is no dispute that Iran is already a nuclear state. The states with this capacity are many; among them are Japan and Germany. But, there is a great difference between being a nuclear state, i.e., nuclear fuel cycle capacity, and a state with nuclear bomb, such as India, USA, Russia, England, France, China, Israel and Pakistan. The steps required to allay our fear that Iran in the future may develop Nuclear Bomb are: 1. Nuclear Fuel Cycle Iranian Consortium: USA should join the consortium among others Japan, Germany, France and England to actively monitor the Iranian fuel cycle activity too. IAEA has consistently asserted that the agency could not find any indications that Iran is diverting the fuel cycle for nuclear bomb development. Iran has asserted that their activities are limited to development of fuel for nuclear reactor. 2. Nuclear Shield An international nuclear shield for all nations in the Middle East, including Iran; 3. A nuclear- bomb-free Middle East. This action will remove any pressure from Iran to develop nuclear bomb in the future for deterrence against nuclear bomb Israeli state. Unfortunately the attentions of the past two US Presidents (Clinton and Bush) were on nuclear fuel cycle of Iran. They both ignored that Israel had nuclear bombs. This condition was created by the strong Israeli Lobby. In The Hague, Iranian officials offered to cooperate with the US. We hope this cooperation between USA and Iran would continue to the other tension areas of the Middle East. Iran in the past had stated that the affairs of the Palestinians relation with Israel are basically a Palestinians. Many expect that Iran would not reject a reasonable break through between Washington and Israel over the Palestinians home state. However; many suggest that any resolution about Palestinian state would be a non-starter with Israel. Israel has used Iran as diversion away from creation of an independent Palestinian state. This problem of Palestinian subjugation to Israel occupation is the seed for an unstable world including the Middle East. USA must bring problems created by Israel into our analyses for a stable Middle East. Saint Michael Traveler http://stmichaeltraveler.wordpress.com/

Reading the above posts, a

Reading the above posts, a few questions occured to me... (1) Ahmadinejad speaks for the regime, yet it's a guess (at best) as to the extent that he is in charge. Since the revolution, Iranian presidents have generally been subservient to the Ayatollahs. However, Ahmadinejad seems to be carving out a (hawkish) niche for himself -- are his anti-Semitic threats real and, if so, does he have the power to act on them? (2) Given what Ahmadinejad has said (taking into account the ambiguity that surrounds his power) are Israelies wrong to fear Iran? (3) What exactly is the Iranian stake in the Israel/Palestinian situation? If Iran is amenable to a negotiated solution, why do they back Hezbollah (which is not)?

A few answers to your questions...

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First of all, being anti-xionist or anti-Israeli is hardly being anti-semitic. I think you still haven't come over the fact that xionism =/= judaism. Judaism is a religion. Xionism is a marxist/communist based political movement that will do all it can to gain the territory of Israel, which it feels it is entitled to.

There are no actual threats on the part of Iran. Iran simply says that Israel and xionism need to be eradicated in order for there to be peace and prosperity in the middle East. There is no threat of a direct attack against Israel. On one hand, no, they don't have the power to act on them. On the other hand, neither does Israel, not without the backing of America, which it will never gain. Too many problems would be created from Israel attacking Iran, not to mention the oil prices sky rocketing.

Number 2. The question is not whether Israelis are wrong to fear Iran. The question is whether Israelis have any RIGHT to fear Iran. Iran is a rogue state bent on maintaining total domination over the middle East. As the article said, any country that comes close to rivaling its power becomes a threat to Israel's domination. Israelis have ZERO right to fear any neighbouring middle eastern country. Israel is a state based on the occupation of another state. It is a nation that should not be a nation.
It's basically like me going into your home, taking over it, raping your wife, injuring/killing your children, then being 'afraid' (shiver shiver) of the neighbours coming down on me... damn... I would be afraid too (if I were such a coward to do such a thing).

Number 3. Iran isn't ready for compromise, neither is Hezbollah. There is no compromise when it comes to occupation. One side is the occupier, the other is the occupied. Simple. Hezbollah obviously has some political affluency in the middle east, if not the world nowadays, and to take them as allies would only be a smart choice.

Questions answered.

As to who has legitimate

As to who has legitimate possession to the land is well documented on both sides however some of those documents are mixed in with the climate data documents so we will never know where they originated from or if they actually are legitimate, I personally side with Israel’s claim to the land. I also support any decision Israel makes concerning its defenses, America has always stood beside Israel and until recently Israel could depend on America for support, of course this was back in the days when the overwhelming majority of Americas people put their faith and belief in the God Of the bible, I personally see a positive impact this turning away from the God of the Bible is having on America and its allies.
The one fact that can not be disputed is that Israel is more than capable of defending itself with or without Americas support. Fact: Iran will not have nuclear weapons as Israel will not allow it and Hezbollah and the rest are no more of a threat to Israel than Cuba is to America. I for one will lose no sleep over Israel’s security as this would be foolish.

Response to Anonymous

Hezbollah is not a Palestinian fraction. It is national defensive force of Lebanon. This armed national force was created from Shia fraction during Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon. Please read: Arabs, Israel and Iran: Stop War http://straveler-myamerica.blogspot.com/2007/11/arabs-israel-and-iran-st...

response to response

To begin with, Hezbollah represents a tiny minority of Lebanese people. Do they represent Lebanese Sunnis, Druze or Christians? They are not in any way 'defensive' nor are they a legitimate 'force'. They are a terrorist group -- one which has attacked Israel with Iranian support. Secondly, I did not claim that Hezbollah was a Palestinian "fraction"(sic); I only implied that Iranian support for Hezbollah undermines the notion that they want to be a part of peace negotiations in the region.

Resonse to above

Resonse to above comment: Shia fraction of Lebanon is 41% of the popultion (source:How many Shia are there in the world http://www.islamicweb.com/beliefs/cults/shia_population.htm) How do you define a legitimate 'force'?

response to...and on it goes

1. Does Hezbollah enjoy 100% of Lebanese Shia support? If so, does this give them the right to speak (and kill) for all of Lebanon? What happens to a Lebanese Shi'ite who criticizes this gang? 2. You defined Hezbollah as Lebanon's defensive force. They are illegitimate in that they do not represent the total population of Lebanon, only a fraction of one sect. In addition, the 'defensive' monicker is inappropriate given that Hezbollah has repeatedly initiated military conflict with Israel -- most recently in 2006. 3. Back to my original question -- does Israel have anything to fear from Iran?

On it goes, ya.

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1.) Did the Bush administration enjoy 100% of American support? If so, did that give them the right to invade and attack Irak? What happens to an American who speaks up against this gang? (If you wanna call it a gang)

3.) I answered that one... read up.

I already have responded to

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I already have responded to your question by providing a link to http://straveler-myamerica.blogspot.com/2007/11/arabs-israel-and-iran-st... I don't think Iranians would be any threat to Israel. I suggest their action all along has been to defend themselves against a coalition of Arab nations and USA-Israel threat. Historically they have suffered from our aggressions. Please read: Our Foreign Policy is a Reflection of Our National Character http://stmichaeltraveler.wordpress.com/about/ The main issues are the three steps I had identified to create a stable Middle East: 1. Nuclear Fuel Cycle Iranian Consortium: USA should join the consortium among others Japan, Germany, France and England to actively monitor the Iranian fuel cycle activity too. IAEA has consistently asserted that the agency could not find any indications that Iran is diverting the fuel cycle for nuclear bomb development. Iran has asserted that their activities are limited to development of fuel for nuclear reactor. 2. Nuclear Shield An international nuclear shield for all nations in the Middle East, including Iran; 3. A nuclear- bomb-free Middle East. This action will remove any pressure from Iran to develop nuclear bomb in the future for deterrence against nuclear bomb Israeli state.

Iran Vs Isreal

As I read through your comments only one thing comes to mind, your an idiot. your right about one thing, Iran will not be a threat to Isreal once we let them re-arrange thier topography.

you have a point here.

you have a point here. sooner the better, however Obama being the closet muslim he is, will not waste anytme throwing the Jews under the bus,

Strange views here on this post

Iran has openly stated on a number of occasions that it wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Iran is currently under numerous sanctions for there actions in the nuclear arena with the rest of the world. This country is at best, not exactly what one would consider to be honest and stable. Israel has had nukes for decades and has NOT used them. Once Iran gets the bomb, they will not likely use it themselves, but you can bet they will put it into the hands of outfits like Hezbollah or Hammas that would do it without hesitation. Iran is not playing with a full deck as its actions are guided by demented religious overtures. If Israel did not have nukes as a deterrent - it would not be here today. The rate at which Iran is enriching uranium it could have a bomb sooner than most people think. There is also no doubt that Iran is going to use its nuclear program to generate electricity as well, but I doubt it will stop there. We live in a strange world when the statements of a country are dismissed and we carry on having normal conversations about what will happen next. It is quite amazing and would be humorous, if it was not true. In my view, Israel will make a lot of noise, but will not attack Iran, unless the US helps. With Obama as President - I doubt that will happen.

obama doesnt care if

obama doesnt care if isreal attacks iran >. it would cause a spike in energy costs >. and economic distress >. this could be just one more crisis the the obama administration could exploit to further their socialist agenda>>>u wont see obama giving isreal any public support or putting any pressure on iran to cease and desist >. brobama is the neville chamberlain of our time >. an illiegitamate president who will prove to be ineligible to run for re election

I love how you add that

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I love how you add that little amount of suitable racism in BROBAMA..

and your an idiot and a

and your an idiot and a brobama bot

Iran or Israel

I choose Israel. I hope they defy our embarrassing and arrogant president and take care of the Iranian threat as soon as possible.

I so much agree with you.

I so much agree with you.

I so much agree with you.

I so much agree with you.

Israel will use NUKES first.

My best guess, (after a study of Moshe Dyan, arguably one of the most brilliant generals) is that if Israel cannot get the U.S. to attack Iran for them, Israel will strike Iranian nuclear facilities with cruise missiles from Israeli submarines in the Persian Gulf. The Israelis may even tip their cruise missiles with tactical nuclear warheads. Tactical nukes would definitely crack hardened Iranian facilities and keep the sites dirty for decades. No fly-over or refuling problems. The Israelis can say they did not "introduce" nuclear weapons to the Middle East, they just "used nukes against nukes." First use of nuclear weapons will scare off any attempt at retaliation. If there is a world wide outcry, the Israelis can diffuse it by giving the Palestinians a "state." No muss, no fuss.

iran

Iran has done nothing but threaten Israel, and her right to exist. That doesn't concern you?

iran

Iran has done nothing but threaten Israel, and her right to exist. That doesn't concern you?

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Israel has clear advantage

You are forgetting one thing:

1. Israel can take out South Lebannon, Gaza, and Iran in one shot. Limiting the ability of Iran and its proxies to launch an attack against Israel.
2. Israel will not just go after the nuclear reactors but target the whole infrastructure of Iran including many of its cities
3. South Lebanon will be flattened like a pancake
4. Gaza will no longer exist
5. The West Bank will be left along but Israel may decide to push them to Jordan
6. Egypt and Syria will do nothing and Saudi Arabia will be happy to get rid of its long time nemesis Iran
7. Israel can launch a war without the help of the US
8. Russia and China will not get involved. For the most Part Russia respects Israel and culture ties are close. China in the end only cares about economics and will by no means come to the defense of Iran

prove me otherwise. Iran in the end cannot do a damn thing to stop Israel even with Hezbollah or Hamas.

That is the truth...Live with it.

Roane: Your "report is SO

Roane: Your "report is SO full of errors, the most striking of which is "So what better way for Netanyahu to avoid an ugly clash with a popular American president."
Popular he isn't. He now holds the title of 2nd LEAST popular, and would be #1 if it weren't for his minions at work. The right didn't want him, the left is p.o'd at him and the ones holding his strings are still auntie nancy and dirty harry.
Israel has the right to defend herself BEFORE Iran attacks her, while it attacks her and after. While the good PEOPLE of Iran suffer under tyranny, while injustices are committed daily against them and the IMPOTUS entertains, interviews and jets away to pick up an undeserved "peace prize," Israel can plan all she wants.
In the haste by state-controlled media to blame "bankers" (insert "Jews") for what ails this country financially, smart Americans know very well that the entire congress along with IMPOTUS are to blame.

who knows

it looks like attac of israel will solve something. but in a real way i am shure that iran has few different places where its hide his preparations, plus strong anti-aircraft systems, plus usa presses isral in oder not to attac. situation pretty unpredictable

Obama being the closet muslim

Obama being the closet muslim he is , will waste no time throwing the Jews under the bus.

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