Spin the Bottle

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From Arrowhead to Volvic, Fiji's not the only bottled water with a PR challenge.

Sam's Choice (Wal-Mart)

WET REGRET Water comes from the Las Vegas municipal supply. A test by the Environmental Working Group found it had 200% of the allowable trihalomethane, a carcinogen, and included several chemicals known to cause DNA damage.

Dasani (Coca-Cola)

WET REGRET Coca-Cola's bottling plant near the village of Plachimada in Kerala, India, began pumping groundwater in 2000. When wells dried up and villagers couldn't irrigate their fields, Coke offered a goodwill gesture: heavy-metal-laced sludge from the plant to use as fertilizer. After company ignored years of protests—and two government orders to install wastewater treatment and provide drinking water to villagers—the state ordered Coke plant to close in 2004. (Coke won the right to reopen the next year.)

Arrowhead (Nestlé)

WET REGRET Nestlé is seeking a permit to pipe 65 million gallons a year from a spring in rural Colorado. When critics raised concerns about the effect of climate change on local water supplies, Nestlé said it was "illogical" to base decisions on changes "many years in the future."

Volvic (Danone)

WET REGRET Last fall, Japan recalled 570,000 bottles of the French water after finding the toxic paint chemicals xylene and naphthalene in the bottles.

Deer Park (Nestlé)

WET REGRET In the middle of a drought, convinced officials to let it pump water from Florida's Madison Blue Spring State Park for 14 years for no fee except a $230 permit (more than offset by nearly $1.7 million in tax subsidies).

Ice Mountain (Nestlé)

WET REGRET Pays nothing (other than small lease and $85 yearly well fee) to pump from a Mecosta County, Michigan, spring. Citizens sued, saying the plant would damage nearby waterways, and prevailed. But Nestlé appealed and this past July won the right to continue pumping up to 200 gal./minute.

International Bottled Water Association

WET REGRET Created @Bottled H20Babe on Twitter: "A lover of bottled water, a convenient, refreshing beverage that shouldn't be restricted by governments or false claims."

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Comments

IBWA's Wet Regret

Is this one a typo? There shouldn't be any regret about a genuine fan of bottled water expressing herself on Twitter. Surely, Mother Jones' staff has far too much respect for the First Amendment to object to open commentary. Millions of consumers stay refreshed and hydrated all day long with healthy bottled water.

TomLauria@IBWA

Hilarious

I think that one is hilarious. Certainly you have the right to drink bottled water. And I have a right to say it's stupid. Millions of consumers are indeed stupid.

But yes, there's definitely

But yes, there's definitely a typo. I can't find them on twitter with those names

BottledH20Babe

I found it - BottledH20Babe

Looks like Twitter took the account down. They were probably abusing twitter. Poor twitter.

First Amendment?!

Tommy,

You missed the point!

no point missed...

Peace,
I don't think Tommy actually missed the point... Rather, Tommy's trying to lead other people away from the point - that point being that it's incredibly cynical and manipulative to manufacture genuine support for bottled water as a marketing ploy with which to obfuscate the real environmental and health concerns surrounding use of water bottled in plastic.
See, I give Tommy more credit than just being "ignorant." Tommy knows what's up and is part of a coordinated effort to encourage irresponsible behavior regardless of how clear the data is that drinking bottled water is bad - because Tommy's career depends on the commerce surround this product.

Good job, Tommy... Next time, make it less transparent... Or put your efforts toward something that's actually got positive health and environmental impacts, so you don't have use smoke and mirrors to make your point.

Bless.

Free speech

Inhibiting free speech means that someone tries to prevent bottledH2Obabe from saying - or in this case tweeting - anything. Clearly no one is suggesting that.

Enabling free speech means that when bottledH20babe's words sound suspiciously more like a marketing campaign than like actual facts, anyone can point that out too.

I've found that tap water

I've found that tap water works just as well. Plus, it's free and does not come packaged in plastic bottles that often wind up in landfills.

how is tap water free? you

how is tap water free? you pay a water bill each month. it is very cheap compared to bottled water, but it is not free.

the quality of tap water is another issue. bottled water has to be filtered several times so that the coke/pepsi/etc that is made with it tastes the same where ever it is made. they remove the chlorine and fluoride from the water. both of those chemicals are bad for you. there is enough chlorine in the tap water where i live that if you put a goldfish into a bowl of it, it will die!!! and our water is considered to be pretty good quality water.

more importantly, some one drinking a bottle of water is at least trying to be healthier than some one drinking a bottle of soda. both leave empty bottles.

instead of complaining about the bottled water drinking, a better options would be to suggest that they buy larger bottle--gallon, or 5 gallon water coolers--or get filters for their homes. then use re-usable bottles.

Umm..

The EPA has better standards for the water that comes through your tap than the paid by the company propaganda FDA.

Re: Chemicals Bad, Water good

Trace amounts of chlorine kill the bacteria that could otherwise make you sick - better than having to boil water before you use it.

Bottled water is a convenient way to carry water with you when you don't have access to a tap. It should be used when you don't have access to a tap - not as a substitute for the tap.

The best thing to do if you're concerned about chemicals in your water is to use a filter - either added directly to the tap or separately. Then fill your own non-dosposable bottles for transport.

It's possible to make a healthier choices for you and the environment at the same time.

nevermind reusable bottles

Because it's much cheaper (yes, tap water isn't free, but it's cheaper by many fold than bottled water), better for you (no BPAs, phthalates, etc.) and better for the environment (no plastic waste that, even if it were all recycled, would still not be a closed loop) to fill a reusable bottle made of stainless steel at your tap (perhaps through a filter that you use for drinking water anyways) and carry that reusable bottle full of water to wherever it is you're going that has no potable water.

Oh, and you get to decorate your bottle, which is just ... neat.

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Fluoride BAD?

During WWII the Army discovered that recruits from certain areas of the US such as Northern NY State had more cavity resistant teeth than others. A study revealed that naturally occurring fluoride in the water gave those who drank it additional cavity protection. Thus was born water fluoridation in the US. When our Army family was posted in Germany, our children were given fluoride rinses in the American Department of Defense schools there to make up for the lack of fluoridation in the water.

While fluoride in large amounts is dangerous, drinking filtered bottled water deprives the drinker of the benefits of small amounts.

It takes 5 liters of water to produce one liter of bottled water. Bottling is a very expensive way to get something that one can obtain relatively cheaply from the tap. And if you're worried about all those "bad" chemicals, you can invest is a reverse osmosis water filter for your home.

IBWA...

I don't think that MoJones is offended by her defense of bottled water per se, but rather the idea that its consumption shouldn't be regulated by the government or by false claims. Maybe doing a little research, H20 babe would realize that many of these claims are not, in fact, false. She has the right to defend bottled water, but ignoring all the evidence mounted against the industry is supreme ignorance or a complete lack of concern for other people in the name of convenience.

Dear TomLauria@IBWA

Presumably IBWA's regret is being called out on the shill that you have promoting your just plain stupid product.

But her(?) pronouncements are indeed hilarious considering the absurdity of someone actually taking the time to defend bottled water: http://twitter.com/BottledH2OBabe

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All the studies I've seen show bottled water doesn't meet the same standards as tap water, just buy a bottle and refill it, you'll have cleaner water, less litter, and less worry about public water being co-opted by private water companies.

H2 Uh-Oh

Its about branding and the bottom line - neo classical economics is dangerous for your health and your wealth

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Speaking of shills!
Most serendipitous of this one to show up & spam the discussion.

As a citizen of

As a citizen of Massachusetts, I think that we should add a $0.05 deposit on plastic water bottles in addition to soda and beer bottles. And, while we are at it, change all of these deposits to $0.10 like Michigan.

Drink Urine Instead

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Coca-Cola uses tap water from local municipal water supplies, filters it using the process of reverse osmosis and adds trace amounts of minerals, including magnesium sulfate (Epsom salt), potassium chloride and table salt (sodium chloride). So people from Kerala, India, drink water from Plachimada.

One of my friends kids, as an 8th grade science project, tested over twenty brands on 200 people for taste and water test kits for content.
They found Disani one of the best.

You and the other fool:

http://boards.fool.com/Message.asp?mid=27886115&sort=threaded

Your eyes are getting brown from all that $h!t your full of.

I think I went swimming in that rural spring in Colorado, it was so cold I couldn't hold it and wet my swimsuit. Sorry

It's real easy now days to set on your a$$ watching the internet; cut, paste and compose a story. Only problem is your hips get wide over the years and some people call you 'fat a$$' behind your back.

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PS: 24. August 10, Water Technology Online – (Massachusetts) E. coli in Boston suburb’s water. Officials in Milford, Massachusetts on August 9 told residents to boil water used for drinking and cooking after E. coli bacteria were detected in the town’s water supply, according to local reports. The source of the contamination still is unknown, according to an August 10 NECN.com report. The Milford Water Co., a private company, detected the elevated levels of total coliform and E. coli bacteria last week. The lag time between the discovery of contamination on August 5 and public announcement has some town officials upset. A selectman told The Milford Daily News that the timing is "unacceptable," MyFoxBoston.com reported August 10. The water company manager said it is the first time in his 25 years with the company that residents were advised to boil water. An investigation is under way and chlorine levels in the supply have been boosted. Source: http://watertechonline.com/news.asp?N_ID=72382

Crystal Geyser?

Are there any "wet regrets" about Crystal Geyser or Roxane? I ask because my wife swears by Crystal Geyser, which is bottled in Roxane, CA (there is also a "Roxane" brand). She is chemically sensitive to chlorine, and says she does not have a reaction to CG but does to certain other bottled water brands. Our tap water is not as great as it could be, as we live on the California Delta (yes, the one being threatened with the Peripheral Canal). I use a Pur inline filter on the kitchen sink, and am considering whether to go for an RO or other more comprehensive filter system.

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