Anti-Abortion Group to Protest Palin

When Palin touts her book in Indiana, pro-lifers will be there—because they don't believe she's one of them.
When she was running for governor of Alaska in 2006, Sarah Palin reportedly said that even if her then-14-year-old daughter were raped, she would "choose life" and force her to bear a child. Comments like that that have endeared the fiery Alaskan politician to most pro-life voters, who lionized her for not aborting her Down's Syndrome baby. But Trig isn’t enough to protect Palin from a phalanx of anti-abortion activists who plan to protest her appearance on Thursday to promote her book in the conservative heartland of Indiana. Their reason? They think she's not really pro-life.
For the Denver-based American Right to Life, when it comes to abortion, Palin is as impure as any godless feminist. “[H]er words and actions prove that she is officially pro-choice and stands against the God-given right to life of the unborn,” they write in a new report. ARTL members plan to educate reporters about Palin’s many alleged failings as a true believer, particularly her March nomination of a former Planned Parenthood board member to the Alaska Supreme Court and her refusal to call for a ban on the morning-after pill.
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ARTL has claimed credit for ousting Mitt Romney from the 2008 presidential race by exposing his pro-life "conversion" as a fraud with TV ads in the key primary states of Iowa and South Carolina. The group has grown exponentially over the past two years since it split from the National Right to Life Committee over its belief that the evangelical powerhouse had sold out to the GOP by trading candidate endorsements for thousands of dollars worth of donations from the party.
Palin is emblematic of that compromised relationship, according to ARTL. "The pro-life movement has sunk to such a low level that if you don't kill your own child you qualify as a leader," says ARTL spokesman Bob Enyart, referring to Palin’s decision to give birth to Trig.
While it does not condone violence against abortion providers, ARTL may be the nation’s most radical anti-abortion group. It promotes the simple logic that "either abortion is murder or it's not, and if it is, you don’t support those who'd kill some children," says Enyart, explaining why they don't like efforts by more established pro-life groups to simply regulate the practice with such restrictions as the partial-birth abortion ban. ARTL wants abortion to be a crime—and it doesn’t countenance compromise.
As a 527 group, ARTL cannot formally endorse candidates. But as Enyart points out with a chuckle, "We can't say don't vote for Mitt Romney, but you can say Romney is the son of the devil and if you vote for him you'll go to hell." The group’s president is Brian Rohrbough, who once served as the running mate to hardline conservative presidential contender Alan Keyes. (Rohrbough is perhaps better known for having lost a son in the Columbine massacre.)
One of the organization's goals is to expose politicians who claim to be pro-life but fall short of supporting anything less than legal rights for the unborn and full criminalization of abortion. ARTL launched a new website this week called Prolife Profiles that prominently features a report calling Palin’s record on abortion "shocking to the conscience." ARTL has given Palin a "Tier 4" designation that lumps her in with other allegedly fake pro-lifers like Romney, George W. Bush, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, and Rep. Ron Paul. Tier 4 members "use the pro-life title but deny the personhood and God-given right to life of the unborn." By that measure, Palin has many strikes against her, according to ARTL, including:
* Her failure to endorse legislation and amendments that would extend equal protection laws to unborn children
* Her description of the morning after pill as contraception rather than an abortifacient
* Palin’s statement to the Anchorage Daily News that she opposes the "use of public funds for elective abortions." This means, according to ARTL, that Palin supports taxpayer funding for non-elective abortions.
ARL takes particular offense at Palin’s belief that voters and individual states should decide whether abortion should be legal or not. "If you’re personally against slavery but say that the states have the right to decide if they can trade in slaves, then you're a hypocrite," explains Enyart.
One of Palin’s biggest violations of pro-life orthodoxy was her political partnership with John McCain, whom the National Right to Life Committee dubbed a "significant threat to future advances by the pro-life movement" back in 2000. (It endorsed him in 2008.) ARTL is also not happy that Palin and McCain supported stem cell research.
The group also blasts Palin for her position that public schools should teach evolution as "an accepted principle” (a belief she seems to have repudiated in her book, according to some leaked reports). This might seem to be a tangent for the group, but Enyart says creationism is central to the abortion issue. "We have the right to life from our creator. If we come from animals, you can kill one another without consequences. A fish can eat another fish and it’s not a crime."
Enyart notes that ARTL has reserved a "tier one spot" for Palin in their rankings of public figures, provided she meets certain criteria. But he doubts she will ever improve her spot on their list. "When given a choice for a Supreme Court justice in Alaska between a radical environmentalist and a radical pro-abortionist, she prefers the pro-abortionist, which is at the heart and soul of the left," he said. "If she was given a choice between KKK or PETA, who's she going to choose?"
UPDATE: Twenty-four hours after ARTL posted its report on Palin's pro-choice record, her political action committee responded by scrubbing any mention of the Alaska Supreme Court nominee from its website Tuesday. Read more about it here.
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ARTL Interview
I just listened to the interview this report is based on ( http://kgov.com/bel/20091116 ). Thought I'd surf in here and check out how it emerged. :)
ARTL Interview
I just got done listening to the interview this report is based on ( http://kgov.com/bel/20091116 ). Thought I'd surf in here and check out the result. :)
Hey, with all the Left-wing
Hey, with all the Left-wing kooks that'll be out in droves, the fringe group from the right will just have to joust for a good spot on the curb too.
Abortion
Interestingly, if we look at the major forms of Birth Control, the pill, patch, IUD etc. they all are abortions. None of those prevent the fertilization of the ova, they simply make the uterus inhospitable for it to implant. That is why they are NOT 100% effective.
So, next step for this group is to outlaw all contraception, except abstinence.
They believe that God should be the only decider as to when a person is born and if that person has disabilities that is GOD's will.
Condoms?
How do they feel about Condoms, do they think they are an Abortifacient too?
Do they want to outlaw condoms as well?
Naw, condoms are ok all
Naw, condoms are ok all based on the double standard imposed by men - the use of viagra is also encouraged - all covered by their insurance companies.
...until it needs health
...until it needs health care.
Minor Correction
First: Not trying to attack you. Just want to point out that its not abortion. You need to be pregnant to have an abortion. In order to be pregnant, the egg must implant on the uterin linning. So the pill/morning after and IUDs are not abortion because they create an environment in the uterus to prevent implantation.
But the rest is accurate. These are the same people who say "The pill kills" and think that condoms are an affront to God int he same way masturbation is (i.e. all genetic material should be dispensed for the sole purpose of making a baby). I learned this from 10 years of Catholic school btw.
Actually, you are mistaken
Actually, you are mistaken there. You are pregnant even before the fertilized egg has implanted. A new human being is created at the moment of fertilization.
From that point, any action you take to prevent the biological development of this new person is an act of violence against another human being.
And that is nonsense. The
And that is nonsense. The potential for life is created but actual life can not start until it is implanted. Go out and look at your garden in the fall when all the seeds (fertilization is what creates seeds remember) that are hanging on spent flowers. Unless the seeds are planted in the ground life can not occur. That is nature and like it or not, man (or woman actually) is part of nature. Its just the way it is. Deciding life at the moment of fertilization is not biological science but what moralists, ethicists and lawyers have decided. You want to prevent abortion you support safe, effective affordable birth control based on science and not faith.
why is it that people don't
why is it that people don't want women to have access to reproductive health care? you don't want women to have abortions, but you don't want them to use birth control either? birth control is not abortion.
' A new human being is
' A new human being is created at the moment of fertilization.
From that point, any action you take to prevent the biological development of this new person is an act of violence against another human being.'
So a zygote is a human being? Better tell the IRS; they've been missing out on some major tax monies.
Actually, the pill prevents
Actually, the pill prevents ovulation so there's not ovum to fertilize. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
Remember
Science is not a strong suit for these folks. They've said several times that banning contraception is their goal. No birth control, no sex ed, no abortion. And these are not flexible stands. Even if the mother's life is in danger...it's up to god.
What's the sickest is that some of these nuts are women.
Hangers for everyone! And douche up those bleach cocktails, too. Again, science isn't something they believe in.
actually, you could go on to
actually, you could go on to say that if God wants someone to be born, then regardless of any sort of birth control, IUD or whatever, then that person will be born. God made a whole universe, so He can get around a stupid little pill.
and just as a side note, i'd like to point out that birth control helps women who have irregular cycles have regular ones. i was on it long before i was actually having sex.
yes
I totally agree with this whole comment. My wife also had to take BC before we tried to start getting pregnant, to keep her regular.
actually...
actually, you could go on to say that if God wants someone to be born, then regardless of any sort of birth control, IUD or whatever, then that person will be born. God made a whole universe, so He can get around a stupid little pill.
and just as a side note, i'd like to point out that birth control helps women who have irregular cycles have regular ones. i was on it long before i was actually having sex.
your post
you are ill informed. The pill does not make it impossible for the ova to implant. It simply does not allow the female to make any eggs in the first place. You are a dumbass, look it up. it is not an abortion like the morning after pill
Just shows how unreasonable
Just shows how unreasonable these people are. If you find yourself pregnant, are you going to be arrested and strapped to a stainless steel table until you have a baby? Make abortion illegal....and watch the carnage that ensues!
no strapping
No, nobody would have to be strapped down. If there wasn't a morning after pill or abortion clinics or the procedures thereof, then no one would be able to abort their baby without physically inflicting themselves, to do it. Why would you say they'd have to be strapped down? That's ignorant.
These ARTL people are
These ARTL people are seriously stupid. "We have the right to life from our creator. If we come from animals, you can kill one another without consequences. A fish can eat another fish and it’s not a crime."
Uh, fish DO eat other fish and I don't see many fish in jail for that. Good grief.
I was thinking the same thing
Is everyone in ARTL vegan? Because if they eat meat or anything that comes from an animal (created by God) that is murder. Hmmmm. So in the end, when faced w/ PETA or KKK, I would think they would side w/ PETA, right? I mean KKK hurts human lives and burns nature.
stupid
you guys are stupid. They are comparing us to animals and fish. If we were comparable to animals, we would have no ethics about cannabilism. As animals, fish do not. We do and we should have ethics about killing children, unborn or not. Before too many generations, people will be able to abort their infants if they don't like them. Some high ranking officials already have this in their quivers!
Regardless of what you think
Regardless of what you think of Sarah Palin, I wish this whole argument was able to be defined correctly.....pro choice and anti choice are really the two sides of this argument. You can be pro life AND pro choice. You can be anti abortion and pro choice. Putting pro choice people into a category of pro abortion just isn't fair. It's not about wanting an abortion, it's about the right to choose.
I am 100% pro-choice in that
I am 100% pro-choice in that I am always for birth control and sex education to prevent pregnancies and reduce the need for abortion. I believe that women have the right to decide if and when they have children. I do support abortion in special circumstances - if the life of the mother is at stake because women are more than brood mares but preventing pregnancy prevents abortion. And making abortion illegal won't make it go away. Abortion has always been an option - the village wise woman or mid-wife knew how to do it pre-history. It isn't until men decided that they had a say that abortion became illegal.
Pro Abortion
Then you believe that abortion is ok. It is either anti abortion or pro abortion. Kill or not.
Seriously? You call the ARTL
Seriously? You call the ARTL people stupid? You agree that it's not a crime for a fish eat another fish? That is exactly their claim.
As for the question about condoms being abortifacients... do you know what an abortifacient is?
A condom or any other true contraception prevent the sperm and egg from coming into contact with each other.
An abortifacient is used after the sperm and egg have already joined and fertilization takes place and a new unique DNA of a new person is created that is neither the DNA of mom or the dad.
In short, an abortifacient is a chemical abortion.
In Response to crazy
In Response to crazy dood...
The carnage is goin on right now as more than a million unborn babies are being ripped apart, etc.
You apparently are too young to remember when abortion actually was illegal.
There were relatively little carnage of the unborn children or pregnant women. It paled in comparison to the current holocaust.
"Carnage"
Just because abortions weren't legal before 1973, doesn't mean they didn't occur. The wealthy could afford to travel to countries where it was legal, or pay their family doctor to perform the procedure in his office and falsify the records. They generally suffered no ill effects, because the procedure was performed in a safe, sanitary environment.
The less-well-off went to back-alley abortionists or tried to self-abort with wire hangers. Many of them died or became sterile due to hemorrhage or sepsis/infection. You don't call THAT carnage?
The vast majority of "elective" abortions performed are done at about 6 - 8 weeks into the pregnancy, when the zygote/embryo is about the size of the period at the end of this sentence. It is certainly not recognizable as human; you might want to study comparative embryology. You are using the imagery of "babies being ripped apart" only to sensationalize.
But, just because if
But, just because if abortion was illegal people would be stupid enough to inflict suffering and ill effects/consequences on themselves and their bodies, does not make it right to have legal and safer abortions for the mother. The baby has no choice in the situation and it is obviously not safe for them. This is ridiculous.
Well, I was around and I
Well, I was around and I disagree. How do you KNOW how many illegal abortions were performed? You couldn't count them then, could you? Technically, "millions" of "babies" are not being ripped apart because most abortions are first trimester and that is not how those fetuses are aborted. You might want to stay away from the dramatic descriptions and the hysteria if you are trying to win others to your side. Also, my grandmother died from a botched abortion in 1932. I'm sure many other women died from abortions that year, too. But if you are like most "pro-lifers," then you don't think the woman's life accounts for much.
More women die now of
More women die now of complications resulting from legal abortions than ever died from botched abortions before Roe V. Wade.
The entire "back alley abortions with coat hangers" argument is just a red herring.
Complete and Total Lie
This is a compete and total lie. A legal abortion poses no threat to the mother. Pregnancy is far more dangerous to a woman than an abortion.
If women were dying or being maimed because of legal abortions, don't you think it would have made the news? There are women, and women's groups, who actually care about women, unlike the anti-abortion groups, who only care about controlling women and pushing their religion on non-believers. Anti-abortion groups want to outlaw and criminalize abortions even when a woman's life is endangered by the pregnancy. Why does a fetus always count more than a living woman?
So don't even try to push your lies here. No one is buying it.
Things happen. What if a
Things happen. What if a woman dies during a planned pregnancy (ie. she wanted to have the baby)? Controlling women from killing their living fetus would be just like any other law against killing a human.
True. During the Depression
True. During the Depression women who were having trouble feeding their living children couldn't afford another hungry mouth to feed at the expense of the others. My late mother-in-law had an abortion in the 30's because of that. There was a local nurse who did the abortions in sterile conditions to the many women who couldn't afford another child at a time of scarcity and deprivation.
And apparently you do not
And apparently you do not know the history of the US. In the beginning of the 19th Century abortion was generally legal.
'There were relatively
'There were relatively little carnage of the unborn children or pregnant women. It paled in comparison to the current holocaust.'
Riggghttttt; because as we all know, when something is declared illegal, the activity stops completely.
It's not as if there was a thriving black market for clandestine abortions that amounted to untrained butchers risking desperate women's lives for money.
GOP Politicians want to keep abortion legal as a wedge issue
This is just another wedge issue brought to us by the upper 1% plutocracy who now own more than the bottom 95% of Americans.
We don't have socialism in America, we have full blown fascism!
It is hypocritical of the antiabortionist to protest abortion, while at the same time approving of our two wars OF terror that has killed over one million innocent people. Plus there is the fact that lack of medical insurance kills over 45,000 people every year.
We have plenty of money for killing non Americans and stealing oil, but nothing for saving Americans from preventable deaths.
Worst of all is the fact that the Republicans had full control of the White House, the Senate and the House, not to mention the Supreme Court, for four years, yet did absolutely nothing to outlaw abortion.
The reason is the GOP politicians want to cynically keep abortion legal so they can (unsuccessfully) attract conservative voters to the polls on Election Day.
Besides that, during the Dubya/dick eight year nightmare, both unplanned pregnancies and abortions went up. Abstinence only is a complete failure.
So if anyone should be called "baby killers" it is indeed the GOP politicians!
I think I love you! Your
I think I love you!
Your comment is 100% accurate.
GOP whatever.
We need a new party of conservatives, for real. The ones we've had are just playing the part some of the time. But as they say, you can fool some of the people some of the time.....
True pro-life people believe
True pro-life people believe the unborn child has a right to life and pro-choice people do not.
If you believe the unborn has a right to life than also believe that right should be protected by law.
It would be totally hypocritical to say "I'm against the enslavement of blacks... but black slavery should remain legal."
People can claim an beliefs that they want... but if they don't actually live out those beliefs they are phony.
"True pro-life people
"True pro-life people believe the zygote/embryonic cell has a right to life and pro-choice people do not.
If you believe the zygote/embryonic cell has a right to life than also believe that right should be protected by law."
I do not believe a zygote/embryonic cell has a right under the U.S.Constitution to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness that outweighs the pregnant woman/girl's right under the U.S. Constitution from unwarranted interference by her government.
What about suicide?
That is illegal, but why should "unwarranted interference by her government." be an issue here? It is simple, the govt has the commission to "make laws." If it were illegal, yea the woman could do whatever she wanted, but there shouldn't be a legal avenue for killing your child because you don't want it. It is downright absurd!!! How could a debate ever have formed on such a ludicrous issue? Even Norma L. McCorvey (under the alias Jane Roe) now contends for the Pro Life arena. She now repents at what she may have started.
If abortion is murder then
If abortion is murder then there must be consequences. This is what these anti choice people are not saying to you. If Norma "killed" her baby...if even she believes it was murder... then she should be punished! Do we ignore murder when it is women?
This is why Republicans will NEVER outlaw abortion. They would have to put women...their own women...in jail. Just like Republicans may know that their party says a woman's life is not to be saved over the life of the fetus but they still quietly get abortions. The recent revelation about the Republican Party health coverage paying for them tells you that even anti choice women will choose for themselves.
You cannot say it is murder and then not do something about it. They will have to build more prisons for the women who have aborted, I mean murdered their child. Anyone who helps them...doctor, husband, sister, mother will face criminal charges also. It will be the only way to prevent desperate women from aborting. We already have more of our citizens in jail than any civilized country. Wait 'till we start filling up the abortion prisons. don't forget the special prisons where pregnant women will be kept until they safely deliver that unwanted child. Women who want to abort or try to abort will have to be carefully guarded so they can't do it. This will help the economy with the building of new prisons. They will have beautiful delivery rooms and the conservatives will be so happy.
let it go...
and in few months it would not be any person in the World who will trust this moron aword.
She is just Liar
Media to follow Palin?
I'd really like someone to take a head count of the number of reporters and camera operators following Palin around on her book signing tour. What I want to know is, how much free publicity is Palin going to get for her book and her nebulous political aspirations?
Do we, the public, REALLY want to know how many teabaggers and TeamSarah members and middle-aged pot-bellied men with guns on their hips show up to buy her book and wait in the autograph lines?
No (my opinion), but I guess we'll hear about it anyway. Considering how many of us out here AREN'T teabaggers, TeamSarah members, etc., she better be ready for a lot of pushback from those of us who are appalled by her and her much-debunked fakery.
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