Obama's Secret Police
How a radical conspiracy theory traveled from the Tea Party movement to the US Congress.
Does Obama want to impose martial law to shut down the Tea Party movement?
For months, much of the right-wing blogosphere has been fuming about Executive Order 12425, which Obama amended in mid-December. The one-paragraph document grants Interpol, the international law enforcement agency based in France, special privileges within the United States—mainly immunity from the Freedom of Information Act and from lawsuits over activity considered part of its official duties. It's no secret police conspiracy.
But thanks to Glenn Beck, the National Review, Newt Gingrich, and others, this obscure directive has fueled a firestorm of right-wing paranoia. Conservative activists warn that Obama intends to use Interpol as a "secret police" with the power to knock down doors and arrest law-abiding American citizens. No matter that Interpol agents don't even carry guns and have no right to arrest people, or that its American office boasts all of five people. And the hysteria over the executive order is not confined to the Tea Party movement. It has also reached the highest levels of politics—that is, the US Congress.
In January, Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) introduced a resolution that would require a repeal of the order. "As a former FBI agent, I believe that giving INTERPOL blanket exemptions is dangerous," Rogers explained in a statement. "This change ties the hands of American law enforcement and prevents full access to information that could be crucial for on-going U.S. investigations related to criminal or national security activity. This is no time to be weakening the ability of law enforcement to defend our nation."
The online backlash to executive order 12425 became so intense that Ron Noble, Interpol's secretary-general, wrote a piece for Newsweek’s website debunking the conspiracy theory. "An executive order cannot legally authorize an unconstitutional act, and this one doesn't even come close," he wrote.
But Noble's appeal for reason isn't likely to quiet the storm. That's because the Obama executive order feeds a thriving narrative on the right about the current administration's nefarious intentions. Ever since Obama took office, certain corners of the Internet have been frothing with speculation that Obama fancies himself a Mobutu-style African dictator who is furtively plotting to use martial law to crush dissent or unrest over his economic policies.
Nutty as this premise sounds, it's proven particularly popular among those who believe that Obama is not an American citizen or who are bitterly opposed to health care reform. The drumbeat has been so loud that a host of state legislators have introduced "state sovereignty" bills declaring their independence from the federal government under the 10th Amendment and threatening to secede in the event that martial law is declared; Sarah Palin even signed one such bill before quitting as governor of Alaska. (A favorite of states' rights proponents, the one-sentence 10th Amendment basically says that any power that isn't specifically granted to the federal government by the Constitution is reserved for the states.)
Other "evidence" that Obama has despotic designs: A Rand Corporation report released in April 2009, titled "A Stability Police Force for the United States." The think-tank study, commissioned by the US Army, weighs the possibility of creating a new national civilian police force that could be used to help stabilize foreign countries in conflict or after disasters such as the earthquake in Haiti. But because such a force would be insufficiently busy abroad, the authors also suggested that it might be used at home—for instance, to help respond to natural disasters.
The study has become Exhibit A for those who think Obama wants a domestic secret police to silence his political enemies, particularly those in the Tea Party movement. The conservative blogger YidwithLid wrote of the "brown shirt" report, "I wonder what kind of Domestic Role the Stability Police can have, controlling Tea Parties? 'Fixing' Fox News? A national police under the control of this or any president will do nothing less than signal the end of freedom in the United States. Any movement toward this force must be voted down." Of course, it didn't help that the Department of Homeland Security produced a 2009 report warning about the rising threat of right-wing extremism—convincing many conservative activists that they are being targeted by the federal government.
When I asked Rand spokesman Warren Robak about the study, he said jokingly, "Oh, you mean the Gestapo report?" The wonks at Rand were startled when their staid policy analysis became a rallying cry for anti-Obama and right-wing activists. Robak points out that the report was actually commissioned in 2007, during the Bush administration. He also explains that the military had been questioning its ability to shoulder nation-building responsibilities and thought it might be a job better performed by civilians. (After the post-invasion debacle in Iraq, it's not hard to see why police trained in dealing with civilians might be a good idea.)
None of this is likely to quiet Obama's critics—especially as many already believe that he is plotting to hold citizens in "FEMA-run concentration camps." Activists believe these were established under the Bush administration to hold US citizens should martial law be declared following an emergency like Hurricane Katrina. Their suspicions swelled when Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fla.) introduced a bill in January 2009 called the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act that would direct the secretary of homeland security to establish national emergency centers on military installations to be used in the event of such disasters.
By "disasters," Hastings was presumably referring to events such as the hurricanes that regularly buffet his home state. But conservative activists believe the bill would empower the president to detain pretty much anyone he wants at the centers. And when Obama designated the H1N1 flu outbreak a national emergency last fall, right-wingers seized on this as further evidence of a sinister government plot. Conservative bloggers warned darkly that anyone who refused to submit to the flu vaccine might be held in one of the government-run emergency facilities.
Leonard Zeskind, author of Blood and Politics, a history of the white nationalist movement, says that the Tea Partiers' conspiracy theories aren't new. Similarly hysterical warnings of government overreach were rife during the Clinton or Carter administrations. "In the militia days in the 1990s it was about a UN invasion. It's exactly the same phenomenon. Some of the same people are involved," he says.
But these extreme conspiracy theories aren't just confined to the radical fringe. They're being adopted by national politicians, as Rep. Rogers proved with his attempt to roll back Obama's Interpol order. Back in the 1990s, says Brian Levin, the director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University San Bernardino, "The black helicopter stuff was pretty well segregated from the mainstream world. But now you have Sarah Palin entertaining the Obama [born in] Kenya thing or [Gov.] Rick Perry from Texas toying with the secession idea." It's yet another sign of how much the Tea Party and the Republican Party are increasingly one and the same.
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Good Grief
The people who generate this insane crap are a disease. Today people speak of something "going viral" on the Web when some bit of mental pocket-lint is posted by one of these malicious twits and becomes a rallying cry for the Tea Party and other members of the aluminum-foil-hat mob.
"Viral" implies disease, and the Becks and Gingriches and Hannitys and Coulters are the delirious symptoms of the illness caused by these Cyber-Vermin.*
When these types of professional idiots first appeared (in Nazi Germany), they could produce only a few mouths -- Hitler, Goebbels, etc. -- now the "big lie" technique may "go viral;" and therefore the diseased mouth of one big Goebbels has become the nattering noise of numberless nutters, as the Cyber-Vermin infect millions of others and the disease spreads throughout the body politic.
We are as vulnerable to this contagion as the hapless populations of Europe were vulnerable to the Black Death -- no cure is known, and the Cyber-Vermin are about to overcome reason itself. "The sleep of Reason breeds monsters," Goya reminded us. The Tea-Party vermin are breeding as we speak, and there is no vaccine for cupidity and stupidity.
*"Cyber-Vermin" was just this hour coined by me -- just in case it should "go viral."
You hit the nail on the head
You hit the nail on the head Toothsayer. Thanks for mentioning Goya - though I don't recall those exact words. It is a Cyber-Vermin. With all this technology the balancing power of reason, appropriate restraint and decency has all but disappeared. Men take pictures of women's bodies without their consent or without their notice with their cell phone cameras and post them to friends and their peers. They start rumors about "public officials" who come without all the hoity-toity connections or are simple people with ideals and values - destroying their political career before it even starts. It is disturbing and worrying. No wonder good caring smart people don't want to run for public office, and are destroyed irrevocably if they do.
It is so scary that people like me who do have standards of decency and do come from a respectable family with high standards (where even few words of sexism can drive me up the wall) find myself lowering my standards. Soon we'd be full of gratitude for a leader who can count from 1 to 100 and spell "world".
Scary, but true! And with all the right-wingers in our media and in politics we might also end up with women in veils who might be publically flogged for visiting "Planned Parenthood of America" in the next two decades or so.
Very disconcerting.
Please listen to yourself.
Please listen to yourself. You sound like you are getting ready to round up the Jews or something equally sinister.
People all over the country are tired of being robbed and lied to from Washington. Aren't you?
Your claimed coinage of the term "cyber-vermin"?
Cute that you'd think so, but a precursory Goog shows this term being used in 1999, and that is just the first page of results.
I had similar thoughts on the internal combustion engine.
While i'm not unsympathetic to what you are saying, it is discrepancies like this that affect credibility.
Meanwhile, Obama wants to execute terrorists
So this is the smoke screen diversion carefully crafted by the powers that be that is diverting attention away from the real conspiracy to take away our constitutional rights to have a fair trial before executing us.
Just the other day, the Obama administration criminally claimed to have a right to execute any American, anywhere, anytime, for being an accused terrorist.
seriously?
@Kevin: LOL! Please provide data to document any semblance of proof regarding that last sentence! I have had many debates with those on the FAR right blasting Obama for NOT doing that very thing. hahahahaha!
Yes, what is your source?
What is your source and citation for this utter and complete hysterical balderdash?
where'd he get it??
why none other than our own Kevin Drum
http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2010/02/power-assassinate-american-cit...
What does all that really mean?
Drum's brief article provides more questions than answers. There are so many contingencies described in the article that it would be difficult to say with certainty precisely what the President thinks about this. If he does think assassination of American citizens is something our spooks or operatives should do, then I disagree with him.
That American al-Qaeda member from California who posts insane videos now and then could, I suppose, be a target for this sort of action. Personally, it would not bother me -- but he's a schmuck without gravitas, really. I'd say, just wait until we can capture him, try him for treason, and pitch him into prison for life. Why splatter perfectly good sand with his blood?
reply to claim Obama admin claims execution rights
Mr. Schmidt,
I don't not know of any claims by the POTUS of the right to execute anyone accused of being a terrorist. You may be confusing this with an opinion given by legal consel during the Bush administrati0n that anyone could be held indefinitely, without being charged or shown evidence or cause of being held, if the POTUS declared him or her a terrorist threat while the war with terrorists was being fought. The consept was that there can be no limits on the C.inC. during time of war. Most legal experts consider it a ludicrous idea, but to the best of my knowlege this legal opinion has never been contradicted in any official sense.
ergo..whatever fears you have as to executive authority in this area came from the Bush administration and its legal opinions from John Yoo and company. Why weren't you upset then?
hmmm, actually you are
hmmm, actually you are mis-informed as to the full story. It was a Bush era policy, the writer you are responding to probably was incensed about it (as was I). Now Obama has signaled his intention to continue this very same flawed policy, as he has done for so many of Bush's policies. I am disgusted, DISGUSTED. Aren't you and if not, why not. If you say you haven't heard about it, that is very little reason to claim it doesn't exist. Moreover, it is reason to re-read the article printed here in Mother Jones, articles by Glen Greenwald in Salon, it would probably even be worth a little brain damage to read the WaPo (what a piece of toilet paper that rag is, but then again sometimes TP is useful) article that "outed" the information. I saw the links a few posts down, so didn't include them.
The unfortunate thing about conspiracy theories is that they muddy the water and hide the actual "crocodiles" lurking there: Yes, the current policy is that US citizens can be assasinated by the government for suspicion of being a "terrorist"; Yes, the US takes prisoners with little or no proof; Yes, the US often tortures these prisoners; Yes, the US often then decides to hold them as long as they like with no trial. Aren't you disgusted by these things just as much today as you obviously were when Bush enacted and followed these policies?
re., Meanwhile, Obama wants to execute terrorists
It is a bit disconcerting to drop into MJ.com for the first time (I've read the print version for years) and see people arguing--in the face of growing evidence presented by one of the editors of the magazine no less!--that the Obama administration ISN'T attempting to claim even more constitution-usurping powers by claiming this new ability to kill Americans anywhere if they're defined by the President as a terrorist worth killing. Worse still, some of you seem to think this suggestion to be such a ludicrous assertion as to not be worth any further comment, let alone investigation.
Not only is Kevin Drum arguing, I think, that this IS worth looking into further, but so too are the journalists cited in his post and elsewhere, including Salon's Glenn Greenwald, who presents a very strong case here and here that the Obama Administration is doing just this, claiming the power of extra-judicial prosecution, conviction and execution of anyone they deem dangerous in ways only they can determine. No doubt in the name of our protection.
This continues the concentration of power to the Executive started by Bush II and now, apparently, being carried further by his successor. The question remains, why is Obama doing this?
Is it possible he knows better than most what is coming next for our collapsing empire, and is simply preparing the federal government for possible difficult times ahead? Or is that just crazy conspiracy talk too?
I have to agree with your
I have to agree with your astonishment. I have always respected MJ, this is the first time I have been to its letters forum, I am floored that there exists MJ readers who have no idea of the fact of Obama's over-reach in advocating extra-judicial killings. Floored. I have to say that, while I will always respect MJ, the "informedness" of some of the commenters is a sad sad thing. Maybe MJ should write an article about it...
Oh wait they did write that story, but it seemed the wavelengths of light cast by the letters encountered some polarization effect at the eyeballs and the words never reached the brain. Maybe all that made through were the vowels, because obviously some read it but could make no sense of it.
Where were they when Bush
Where were they when Bush conceived and Congress hysterically passed the Patriots Act? Uh, maybe they were deceived by the "patriots" part of that "act."
""The people who generate this insane crap are a disease.""
Yeah!!! They should be doused in peanut butter, rolled in oats and fed to the bears!
Huh?
Have you always been supercilious?
I remember hearing about this
I remember hearing about this kind of paranoid nonsense coming from the left when Bush was in office. Martial law was never declared, those supposed detention centers that were supposed to house illegal immigrants were never used to detain law abiding citizens, and the transition from Bush to Obama occurred without incident.
Aww beautiful symmetry.
Only themselves to blame
If it were true, they will have only themselves to blame. It's the same set of powers they were perfectly happy to see the President have when the President was their political ally.
@Kevin may sound hysterical, but this is at least one source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/26/AR201001...
They can run, but they can't
They can run, but they can't hide. There are 487 racist at the tea bag convention. Tomorrow with the arrival of the Palins there will be two more.
Do they think that the waiters are not spitting in their rascist dinner plates?
Racist, facist, Hitler, homophob, blah, blah
Racist, fascist, Hitler, homophobe, blah, blah ... look in your mirror folks! Your doublespeak is trite and tiresome – especially teabagger. But keep it up because it makes for a great recruiting tool. LOL!!!!
Right wing lunacy
I think it's absolutely treason to try to bring down our country by destroying our government. What the Republicans are doing should be illegal. They are inciting the extreme fringe of their party to violence by impicitly taking up their lunatic causes and repeating their unfounded and totally debunked lies and theories about our legally, overwhelmingly elected President. They think that by taking this low road and by whipping up the ire of the Tea Partiers and fanning the flames of the birther movement, by stating as fact on the floor of the House and Senate, that they can actually get the American people to run to vote them back into office. They let their fringe beleive that they also beleive the lies and false rumors which can only lead to something bad happening for which the GOP will be at fault. They have made the President appear so extreme to their base that there isn't any way they can now agree on anything, even those things that they brought up. Years ago the GOP decided that since they were bankrupt of any real ideas that would help anyone but those at the very top of society, they would just take the low road and win by sliming, lying, smearing, and just about any dirty political trick they could think of. It has worked because while they were in power they spent the time robbing the US treasury and the working folks blind and dumbing down their constituencies so much that over 30% of self identified Republicans think Obama should be impeached, he isn't really a citizen and that he's a socialist. Maybe the changes being made now look slightly socialistic to those on the fringe and the GOP because they have taken this country so far to the right that anything that would be normal and in keeping with what our founders envisioned when they wrote our Constitution and fought to make sure our country would be guided by this wonderful document that those on the right no longer recognize the norm. Thanks to Bush/Cheney and the GOP we spent the eight years of the last administration worrying that our Democracy would be tossed out in favor of an authoritorian society. Where were all the plans and policies they keep touting during those dark years? They don't want to govern, they don't know how. They just want power and by perpetuating the ideas, theories and lies of the extreme fringe, they think they have a sure fire formula for winning elections. They did learn last week that this is their best way forward. Obstruct, stop government, collapse the country,cater to the wing nuts and push the horrible hateful lies about our President, putting him and his wife and their two young children in danger when they went up against Obama on National television and thought that 140 of them against one unAmerican socialist. They were weighed, and measured and found wanting by Obama. They all looked like the fish I caught last year flopping around with their mouths opening and closing with no intelligent sound being emitted. Priceless. So they proved that they have no other way to go but down the toilet. People are starting to notice, finally, that the GOP hasn't earned one dime of their salaries or perks or government funded healthcare. If I or anyone who lives in the real world did their jobs like the GOP is doing theirs, the unemployment rate would be at 99%. That must by why they want to continue working for an employer that they say is bad and should be destroyed. There is no way that any of those GOPers could make it in the private sector without a cronie to give them a job. They don't know how to govern so they spend all their time hypocritically running to continue living on the dole while out of the other side of their mouths the are saying that government is what is wrong with the country without even noticing the irony that they are part of the government and the biggest part of what is wrong with our government and country. Why would anyone want to work at job and for a boss for which they have nothing but disdain? I'm talking about our democratic government and we the people.
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double secret police vs tin foil hats
Take a pinch of paranoia and racism, stir it up on Fox - then add a dollop of Freedomworks funding (Dick Armey) and you end up with a bunch of funny dressed people yelling "constitution" to the cameras. If the press would ask followup questions like "Did you know this began in the Bush admin...so you why didn't you say anything then?" or "Why weren't you screaming about the Privacy Act, secret jails and Guantanamo - where they are really jailing innocent people?". Until the press, politicians and everyone else are willing to confront the insanity - tea baggers will continue to brew some pretty nasty lies. I for one am to donate a roll of Reynolds to my local tea party to keep the double secret police from scanning their missing brains.
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Elements of the American
Elements of the American Progressive movement supported Hitler and Mussolini prior to the invasion of Poland, and in the pages of The New Republic actively wanted Roosevelt to pursue many of the same policies that the Nazi's and Fascists were publicly trumpeting, particularly in the field of science and medicine.
To that end, American Progressives have over the years supported various policies that were contrary to the well being of the nation. They were directly and verifiably responsible for the violation of civil rights "'in the name of science" known as the Tuskegee experiment. They successfully lobbyed the medical profession for the removal of the Hippocratic Oath requirement for doctors.
And now we have a Progressive President that is advocating Government -run Health Care.
Progressive politicians were the first to "pack the court", to gerimander districts in a manner that ensured that their political opponents influence is minimized, who constantly appeal to racial politics when the nation as a whole has pretty much moved beyond race as a political issue, stole elections (Washington state Governor's race, Minnesota Congressional race) , attempted to stage a bloodless coup then accuse the rightful winner of that Presidential race of stealing the election. And you wonder why those on the Right have problems with Progressivism?
The thing is, the average "progressive-on-the-street" wouldn't agree to do any of these things, any more that the average Right-winger would agree with Nixon's Southern policy. Yet these otherwise decent folks follow the power-hungry powerbrokers in their movement like they had hooks in their noses.
To paraphrase a very famous book, take the plank out of your own eye before you complain about the speck in the eye of the Right wingers. The Tea Party folks are complaining about their own party primarily. They are thinking for themselves and acting accordingly. Progressives, you should emulate them.
I don't know who you think
I don't know who you think you asre talking about as progresstves, but you have missed the mark by a long shot from any progressive I know, and there are very few progressives tht are actually being led by the nose as you say, most are very aware of the hypocracy of this President. Further, to characterize Obama as a "progressive President" is so far off base as to be laughable. Tell me ONE progresive thing he has done (and don't say healthcare, he threw progressive ideas right under the bus from the start in favor of PHARMA and Insurance dollars).
You sound to me as someone who has swallowed their talking points pill like a good right-winger. If we listened to you long enough you would probably start talking as well about how Obama is a socialist, another totally wrong headed characterization. At his very best, Obama is center-right and his most defining quality is that he has toed the corporate line and obeyed his campaign funders. It is only recently that even started mouthing anything resembling progressive ideals by pooing on the banksters lunch-plates. Unfortunately, we have seen this act before and the most likely outcome is no outcome from this wiffle waffle oratorian.
I agree with you on one thing: that it would seem that tea-baggers and progressives should unite around a crusade to reduce the bought and paid for nature of our government. Unfortunately, tea-baggers are too often racist shit bags with an overstated fear of big government (when what they really need to fear is just BAD government, like we have now). Yeah, so hanging out with racists.... no freakin' thank you.
you lie
1. Elements of the American Progressive movement supported Hitler and Mussolini prior to the invasion of Poland
You mean Prescott Bush and the other industrialists were progressives?
Those guys who tried to recruit American military people to overthrow the U.S. government, you want to label them as progressives? (shrugs) okay.
2. They were directly and verifiably responsible for the violation of civil rights "'in the name of science" known as the Tuskegee experiment. They successfully lobbyed the medical profession for the removal of the Hippocratic Oath requirement for doctors.
Progressives did this? Then you can cite specific references that a)these were progressives and b) the 'Hippocratic oath" was repealed by them.
Thanks.
3. And now we have a Progressive President that is advocating Government -run Health Care.
He's not even advocating for a public OPTION, much less government run. In fact, Obama never submitted a plan at all. Congress has been doing that.
4. Progressive politicians were the first to "pack the court", to gerimander districts in a manner that ensured that their political opponents influence is minimized, who constantly appeal to racial politics when the nation as a whole has pretty much moved beyond race as a political issue, stole elections (Washington state Governor's race, Minnesota Congressional race) , attempted to stage a bloodless coup then accuse the rightful winner of that Presidential race of stealing the election. And you wonder why those on the Right have problems with Progressivism?
I wonder why those on the right have a problem with reality. I don' really know when gerrymandering began, but you seem to know, and to as well know it was progressives. Amazing depth of knowledge there.
As far as stealing elections goes, you have no proof in the two cases you cited, and you ignore the REAL proof of stolen elections in 2000 (Supreme court...probably progressives, give it to Bush) and Ohio 2004. These are verifiably stolen elections. Yours are speculation (see Brad Blog for more.)
"These are verifiably stolen
"These are verifiably stolen elections...."
Goodness gracious when did these get verified?? Did Acorn finally finish their recount? Does the press know yet? I mean, this is really big news. Someone should tell somebody.
It is truly scary how far
It is truly scary how far paranoia, fear-mongering and the rumor-mills have gone...And a lie told ten times (not even a thousand times) will become the truth - especially for those who don't read, think or debate intelligently (with facts, reason and truth). How can a good tennis player have a game with someone who neither plays well, nor follows the basic rules of the game? Likewise, these Right-wingers can throw their arguments (without merit or facts) willy-nilly! You cannot win shrewd crooks who twist facts and use it cunningly to justify their cause and objectives. If there are people believe, or want you to believe, that "2 plus 2 is 6 or 7" - and keep hammering this on other people like a sledgehammer - how can you possibly have an intelligent discussion on more relevant advanced issues?
This is a reality that is likely to get isolated and die - with time, or breed like rats and push us sane smart sensible sensitive and socially conscientious people into oblivion.
Conspiracy is in the eye of the beholder?
There's all sorts of conspiracy theories, people have made small fortunes writing fiction novels about them, but how many of them honestly hold water? I think one common theme is that there's a One World Government, and people outside our borders with designs on our government, and then of course people inside our country with designs on our government, frankly one thing shines through, namely that not too many people really understand what 'government' is, what it does, or agree on how government should go about whatever it is that it does, and I think conspiracy theorists flock to the general theme of government like moths to a flame. But, there are questions, and in past times, there's been people like J. Edgar, Howard Hughes, and questions shrouded in mysteries wrapped in enigmas, with a side order of controversy to go. But, how many of these theories are fanciful inventions, and how many actually based in reality? Because you can theorize all day long, but until we actually SEE blue-helmeted UN troops parachuting out of the sky to dispossess Americans of their sovereignty and the World President step out of his flying saucer, it's all just conjecture. But, maybe there's an up-side, maybe the World President will finally be able to tell who really DID shoot JFK, and what happened at Roswell, New Mexico, and why, exactly, the Moon seems to be off-limits for manned exploration. But, he/she will probably beg off, calling it 'state secrets' or somesuch, and we'll never know.
If this story about Executive Order 12425 is true...
...then where are the liberals who were making these same accusations about Bush? During the Bush years, liberals were bouncing conspiracy theories off our heads left and right, i.e. black helicopters, FEMA camps. Suddenly, the conspiracies are stopping. And since when do we allow INTERPOL to operate in the US with the same powers that they have back in Europe?
He's not even advocating for
He's not even advocating for a public OPTION, much less government run. In fact, Obama never submitted a plan at all. Congress has been doing that.
Progressive politicians were the first to "pack the court", to gerimander districts in a manner that ensured that their political opponents influence is minimized, who constantly appeal to racial politics when the nation as a whole has pretty much moved beyond race as a political issue, stole elections (Washington state Governor's race, Minnesota Congressional race) , attempted to stage a bloodless coup then accuse the rightful winner of that Presidential race of stealing the election. Nike Zoom Kobe IV low|And you wonder why those on the Right have problems with Progressivism?
What is Sheik Obama up to?
Sheik Obama's Executive Order amending President Ronald Reagans' 1983 EO 12425 and placing INTERPOL above the United States Constitution and beyond the legal reach of our own top law enforcement is a precursor to more damaging moves.
The pre-requisite conditions regarding the Iraq withdrawal and the Guantanamo Bay terrorist detention facility closure will continue their course. meanwhile, the next move from Sheik Obama is likely an attempt to dissolve the agreements made between President Bush and other states preventing them from turning over American military forces to the ICC (via INTERPOL) for war crimes or any other prosecutions.
When the paths on the road map converge - Iraq withdrawal, Guantánamo closure, perceived American image improved internationally, and an empowered INTERPOL in the United States - it is probable that Sheik Obama will once again make America a signatory to the International Criminal Court. It will be a move that surrenders American sovereignty to an international body whose INTERPOL enforcement arm has already been elevated above the Constitution and American domestic law enforcement.
For an added and disturbing wrinkle, INTERPOL's central operations office in the United States is within our own Justice Department offices. They are American law enforcement officers working under the aegis of INTERPOL within our own Justice Department. That they now operate with full diplomatic immunity and with "inviolable archives" from within our own buildings should send red flags soaring into the clouds.
This is the disturbing context for Sheik Obama's quiet release of an amended Executive Order 12425. American sovereignty hangs in the balance if these actions are not prevented through public outcry and political pressure. Some Americans are paying attention but the discussion must extend well beyond the Internet and social media.
Ultimately, a detailed verbal explanation is due the American public from the President of the United States detailing why an international law enforcement arm assisting a court we are not a signatory to has been elevated above our Constitution upon our soil.
The "goal", unattainable as
The "goal", unattainable as it is, is risk preemption, and under that doctrine anything that you have not total knowledge of or continuous monitoring of is a risk.
Huge data bases are being populated with people data, Interpol helps.
If they are immune is the next step our police forces?
You're delusional
They have pills for your condition.
If you don't like the Blue pill, take the Red one. Just make sure you wash it down with more Kool-Aide.
Paranoia is not necessarily a bad thing
"or [Gov.] Rick Perry from Texas toying with the secession idea." And he is different, how? Texas (as in the people of the state) has been toying with the secession idea for as long as it has been a state, same as Alaska. Another given is that both the right and left extremes are made up of paranoid people. I should know. Is that bad? Not as I see it because I believe that's what has kept the USA from going to either extreme. Both side balance each other out. I belong to one of the extremes but I am glad the other exists. I prefer someone who is clear about his position and will admit to it, than someone who lulls everyone to sleep while putting in place his agenda. Another thing that I am glad about is that a huge percentage of Americans own guns legally (even when I don't believe in hunting animals). The chances of a dictator taking over the USA, as has happen in many other countries, is greatly diminished when people have the ability to defend their rights. As a retired attorney, I know 'our' legal system is not made to defend the rights of the majority of citizens but those of the small group that control the majority of the finances of 'our' nation. (FYI people who try to peg me to one side are very mistaken.)
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This is one of Glenn Beck's favorite fantasies
On www.glennbeckreport.com I have posted extensively about the program where Glenn and two guests discuss Obama's secret plan to turn Americorps into a private Gestopo-like armed police force for him to spy on right-thinking Americans.
Principle 3 - http://glennbeckreport.com/the-9-principles-deconstructed/principle-3/
Principle 3, by the way, is one of the 9 Principles, namely
3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday.
Beck's 9.12 Project is an epic FAIL. It's a bizarre attempt to corral Christians and Constitutionalists into the Mormon church using a hybrid of religious and political bullshit to prey on the fears of the weak-minded. I believe that Glenn Beck's attempt to co-opt a leadership role in the Teabaggers using the approach of bombarding them with Cleon Skousen and JBS conspiracy theories is going nowhere. Yes, he enjoys a large audience, but I think half of them are liberals watching a clown act.
-Wexler
Speaking about conspiracy theory...
Scary! The evil Mormon church! Wexler why do you think the Mormon church's actual name is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? Where do you think the word 'christian' comes from? By the way, Beck has admitted to not being exactly the role model Mormon. You, and many like you, are hijacking the word 'christians' to preach some very un-'christian' sermons. Talk about "prey(ing) on the fears of the weak-minded".
Well,
Beck is a Mormon. I don't know where you're getting your information from, but please spare me the pure-d bullshit about him saying "somewhere" that he's not a role model Mormon. I think you and he both pulled that out of the Factbook of Your Asses.
Mormons are a cult.
If you're a Mormon, you're a member of a cult.
The Mormon 'church' is a fraud to use the word "Christian" in its name. Here are a few reasons why.
1. Mormons believe that Jesus and Satan were born as twin brothers and exist today in flesh and blood.
2. Mormons believe that when you die (if you've been a good Mormon) you become God in your own universe.
3. The Bible says that it's the only authoritative book to be used by Christians. So Mr. Fraud, how do you explain the Book of Mormon and the Doctrines and Covenants? FRAUD, that's how I explain it.
4. Joseph Smith was a petty criminal who defrauded people for a living.
5. The Mormon "church" murdered an entire wagon train full of men, women, and children while disguised as INDIANS.
6. The Mormons believe in polygamy even though they say they don't.
That's just a few, if you want to read more about Mormon FRAUD then visit www.glennbeckreport.com and read the facts. This is a front group that hides behind church status to avoid paying taxes. I guess it's no wonder that Glenn Beck wants to be leader of the Tea Party.
As a matter of fact, he's having some nutjob Christian on his program to preach some vile wakko crap this week. Boy, I can hardly wait until the day the Xtian Fundies in the Tea Party and 9.12 Project find out that they're being led by a heretic. Oh, too funny!
-Wexler
PS
I'm an atheist. I think all you religious wakkos are nuts. However, I know that some of them are WORSE than others, and fraudulent, conniving, controlling, moneysucking, bastards. Did I leave anything out? Oh, yeah, the part about me throwing the next Mormon punk who sets foot on my property out on his effing "elder" ear.
Obama's secret police
It isn't just the Right Wing that's concerned!
More quiet laws/ orders/ restrictions/
RISK PREEMPTION not money is the root of all (modern) evils. Think about it. Every person you don't know is a risk, a is an unknown and therefor a risk subject to preemptive action. Every Company, every rule, every traveler, every foreigner, every citizen, every communication and communication means that you don't know or have not cleared or do not monitor is suspect.
Innocent until proven guilty, presumption of innocence, and all the Constitutional prohibitions to invasions of privacy, search and seizure etc are all targets of risk preemption.
Having Interpol operating in the US and we operating in foreign areas are measures to help eliminate risk. That's why we are losing our sovereignty, our freedoms, our privacy, our freedom to travel, our free speech and all the other freedoms that we are guaranteed by the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and have been taken or compromised by the Patriot Act and other such. How do you legally change the Constitution by passing a law?
You better wake up folks before its (it may already be) too late.
THINK ABOUT RISK PREEMPTION. It is a natural extension to preemptive war, which Obama and Bush have said we will follow.
America the land of the free and the home of the brave. To be free requires you to be brave. Those that are willing to trade their freedoms for security are cowardly fools. You will be neither free nor secure soon.
Interpol is basically another huge data base, one OF MANY, that have YOU on file.
That helps to eliminate risk if you are known. But to be known requires invading your privacy, your travel plans, your friends, your finances, your phone calls, your spending habits, your speech, your religion, who you associate with, your religion, and every other thing that the government can learn about you.
You might say you have nothing to hide, but do you trust your politicians with your and your families future and security?
We don't need risk preemption any more than we need an Immune Interpol in the US. We need efficient criminal detection. We need local, national and international police forces chasing criminal behavior and leads that amount to probably cause for investigation, we don't need huge NSA monitoring on gigantic fishing expeditions any more than we need an immunized Interpol. We don't immunize our own police forces why should we immunize theirs.
Hey
Did you even bother to read the article?
One has to wonder.
Try again. How many Interpol staff are going to be located here? And why does having them here make any difference to the database? Have you ever heard of telecommuting?
Executive Order 12425
Fortunately Quick research turns up
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-exec...
Specifically, Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983
from
Executive Orders Disposition Tables
Ronald Reagan - 1983
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/1983.html
Executive Order 12425
International Criminal Police Organizations
Signed: June 16, 1983
Federal Register page and date: 48 FR 28069; June 20, 1983
Amended by : EO 12971 September 15, 1995; EO 13524, December 16, 2009
Let's Lead with Facts
http://www.ipu.org/finance-e/PL79-291.pdf
Read, Enjoy & Share,
Peter Lott Heppner
Chicago
Obama's goon squad
No problem.....the President always has his goon squad(new Black Panthers) to make sure conservative voters are intimidated when they go to the polls to vote.
Interesting Article. Hoping
Interesting Article. Hoping that you will continue posting an article having useful information. Thanks a lot!
AMERICA'S FIRST MARXIST PRESIDENT
You have to take everything Obama does seriously. After all, he is a documented Marxist.
Do you homework here: http://www.commieblaster.com
Marxist? LOL what an idiot
In order for you to believe that Obama is a Marxist you would have to be such an idiot and so misinformed that you'd have trouble remembering to breathe.
Obama is a center-right Democrat. His whole life, everything he's ever said, every bill he's voted for, every action he's taken as President, all prove this to the rational.
Have you ever read anything about what Karl Marx believed? Do you understand how the Democratic Party is deeply intertwined with the world of business? Do you have a clue about anything?
I'd say the answer to those is no, no, and no. You are either an ignoramus or a troll. In either case, you're full of dung.
-Wexler
Obama's Secret Police
"The one-paragraph document grants Interpol, ... special privileges within the United States—mainly immunity from the Freedom of Information Act and from lawsuits over activity considered part of its official duties ... It's no secret police conspiracy."
Okay, I understand it is No Secret Police Conspiracy, fine. But what I do NOT understand is why should a foreign law enforcement agency, or whatever the Interpol are, be granted any sort of "special privelages" or "immunity" in the United States?
This makes no sense to me.
I mean, American citizens are stripped of Rights on a daily basis in this country, but foreign agencies are protected?
Is this what America is supposed to be?
conspiracy theories come and
conspiracy theories come and go. But how many conspiracy theories are real and true? The following URL can be proven true or false just by asking yourself are the conditions and the situation ripe for this? With the Bank of America being played for sucker, having been set up by the Feds is one good example. Goldman Sachs and AIG remain untouched and the other Banks are being victimized just to bring the big fall to thedollar. The following URL should be proof enopugh that the US is no longer the Unied States of America but the United States of the World Union. I suggest all people make the proper inquiries to prove that Obama and the entire Congress and Senate are the new real bought and paid for Globalists. Michelle Obama was correct in saying she suppoprts her husband in his efforts to bringabout a World Union. Henry Kissinger was right wehen he said that Obama was a real globalist. It is here, finalized sealed and delivered. The real changes Obama meant are forth coming, that is the currency change, the seat of gov ernment change to Brussells etc. The Wealthy silent conspirators have won the ignorant and stupid Americans have lost.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalbanking04...
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